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Bill Keller says “MICHAEL JACKSON IS IN HELL”

Posted by 1minionsopinion on July 11, 2009

Bill Keller says

“MICHAEL JACKSON IS IN HELL”

World’s Leading Internet Evangelist Claims Michael Jackson is in Hell
LivePrayer.com Founder Says What a Person Believes Matters…for Eternity
Contact: Bill Keller, 727-420-7005, bkeller@liveprayer.com; www.liveprayer.com
ST. PETERSBURG, Florida, June 29 /Christian Newswire/ — Pastor Bill Keller, founder of  LivePrayer.com, submits the following and is available for comment:
In all of the intense media coverage after the death of pop superstar Michael Jackson, the one thing that has driven me crazy has been hearing over and over, often by high profile Christians, that Michael is now at peace in Heaven. Really? I hear this same thing whenever a famous person dies, regardless what they believed during their life, as well as from people when a family member or close friend dies, again, regardless what they believed during their life.
If this is true, than what is the use of the Gospel? If this is true, why should anyone waste their time and effort telling people about Jesus? If this is true, than the death of Jesus on the cross was a meaningless exercise, his resurrection didn’t need to occur, and people can believe whatever they want during this life and make it to Heaven. THAT MY FRIEND IS THE UNIVERSALISTIC LIE FROM HELL!!!
The fact is God made only ONE plan of salvation. There is only ONE way to everlasting life and that is faith in Jesus Christ, the Jesus Christ of the Bible. There are NOT many roads that lead to God, only one, the Jesus road!!! You can’t believe whatever you want and die and end up in Heaven. That is a lie from satan that is leading millions of souls to the flames of hell for all eternity. WHAT YOU BELIEVE DOES MATTER!!!
It is arguable that Michael Jackson was the most recognized person on the planet. Despite his vast fame and material possessions, Michael was bankrupt in the things that really matter in life, joy, peace, contentment, HOPE! Those things only comes through having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and living according to God’s Word.
After his child molestation trial concluded, on June 17, 2005 I wrote these words, “Even though he has been acquitted of the charges brought against him, the moment he dies he will stand before The Judge, God Himself. At that moment, if he dies without Christ he will be standing all alone. There will be no high priced defense attorney, no family, no fans, only God who will judge him for his sins and cast him into everlasting darkness. At that moment, if he has accepted Christ as his Savior by faith, he won’t be standing alone. Next to him will be the ultimate defense attorney, JESUS CHRIST, who will tell The Judge that his sins have been paid for and Michael Jackson will be ushered into God’s presence for all eternity.”
Sadly, Michael grew up in the Jehovah’s Witnesses cult. This is the cult born out of the depraved mind of Charles Taze Russell and denies the very deity of Christ. You can go to Google and type in “cults Jehovah’s Witnesses” and it will give you many websites to document their false theology. However, Michael has not only followed the false theology of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, he made the choice to live his life in rebellion to God and His Word and follow all kinds of false religions and teachings.
During his 2005 trial for child molestation, instead of turning to Christ for strength, he turned to a cult I have exposed and talked about, Kaballah which was popularized by singer Madonna, signified by the “red string” bracelet he wore throughout the trial. He had during his life several high profile spiritual advisors, Orthodox Jew Rabbi Shmuley Boteach and New Age tool charlatan Deepak Chopra, a tool of satan I have warned you about in past Devotionals. Jackson was also heavily influenced by several of his brothers who are deep in the false religion of Islam. Clearly Michael Jackson was a man lost and searching.
I know it makes people feel better when a famous person or someone they know dies, though think that they are in Heaven. This is why I have literally given my life 24/7/365 these past 20 years for the Gospel, because the FACT is, those who die without Jesus will not be in Heaven, but in the flames of hell for all eternity. What you believe matters, and based on what he believes, Michael Jackson is not in Heaven, but in eternal torment and punishment for his sins.
I realize many people will point out all of the great humanitarian deeds Jackson did during his life, the multi millions he has given to charity and those are wonderful acts that should be commended. But we can’t work or buy our way into Heaven. No amount of money or good works saves you, only faith in Christ and God’s grace (Ephesians 2:8,9).
The fact is, Michael Jackson like all men is born into this life with sin in addition to those sins he has committed during his life, and it is that sin that separates him from a Holy God. The moment he died he stood before God and the number of records he sold, the number of people who saw him perform, all of his good deeds didn’t mean anything. The ONLY thing that mattered was the he rejected the Jesus of the Bible by faith as his Lord and Savior.
That is all that will matter when you take your last breath my friend. If you have never made the commitment to ask Christ into your heart and life by faith, let me tell you that the most important decision you will make in this life is not who you will marry, or where you will live, or what kind of job you will have. The most important decision you will make in this life is to accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior. God’s desire is that none be lost, that all come to repentance. He is speaking to you today. The Bible says that TODAY is the day of salvation.
I would invite you to go to, www.liveprayer.com/bdy_salvatn.html. Pray to ask God to open your heart, read the words, watch the short video, pray the prayer, and accept God’ s free gift to you today. WHAT YOU BELIEVE MATTERS…..FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!
ABOUT BILL KELLER……

the other day i was online and saw false prophet bill keller of liveprayer had put out this “major” press releases.

so i had to watch his show.

is keller on drugs again?   he was sniffling and snorting and he seemed really high and out of it, especially when he started dancing like Michael Jackson.  and doing an impression of an argentinian woman.

then he said he had a “cold” and went to the “dr” to get some “pills”

well, that could be true.  but pastor shane had to relieve poor billy during the half hour intermission.

i hope he is not on drugs again.  cocaine is one of the most addictive drugs available.

we should pray!

BILL KELLER

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167 Responses to “Bill Keller says “MICHAEL JACKSON IS IN HELL””

  1. dorian said

    i’ve already shared the keller missive with the MJ authorities.

  2. princessxxx said

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: MJFC – PR Division
    Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:50 AM
    Subject: Is Michael Jackson In Heaven?
    To: bkeller@liveprayer.com

    Dear Mr. Keller,

    I recently read your blog titled “What a Person Believes Matters…for
    Eternity.” The blog where you declared that Michael Jackson is in Hell. It
    was sent to me by a concerned Michael Jackson fan and I have to admit that
    I found it disturbing. Let me tell you a little bit about myself and maybe
    you’ll understand why.

    Mr. Keller, I agree with your statement that what a person believes
    matters for Eternity. I believe it because I am a born-again Christian. I
    come from a family of born-again Christians. I personally came to the Lord
    back in 1988, fresh out of High School. My friends at the time didn’t
    understand my decision and, needless to say, they are no longer my friends
    today. But apart from being a Christian and loving the Lord, I also happen
    to be a huge Michael Jackson fan. That started back when I was very, very
    little. Like so many others, I grew up listening to his music and I can
    honestly say that I don’t ever remember a time in my life when I did not
    love him.

    As I grew, that love grew. When he passed, I was devestated. It was like
    losing a member of my own family. And my first concern was that he died
    without knowing the love of Christ…….and I was devestated. My world
    stopped for two weeks. I had to take several days off work because I
    couldn’t function to do my job; my husband took most of my phone calls and
    answered my email because…..I was devestated. But my sister kept
    frantically trying to get a hold of me because she had come across
    something that she knew would ease my suffering a bit. She led me to this
    website
    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/WSCIRO/blog/2009/06/27/The-Official-Mary-Mary-Blogspot-
    where I read the following:

    Archived Blog Post
    Date / Time: 6/27/2009 3:29 PM

    The Official Mary Mary Blogspot

    Friday, June 26, 2009
    Good News—-RIP MICHAEL JACKSON
    Last night we received some good news from Terri McFaddin-Solomon who is
    good friends with Sandra Crouch. Three weeks ago Sandra and Andre’ spent
    some time with their close friend, Michael Jackson. Michael asked Andre`
    to play, “It Won’t Be Long And We’ll Be Leaving Here.” Michael then prayed
    with Sandra and Andre and accepted Christ into his heart. Now he’s singing
    in the heavenly choir! Our hearts rejoice!

    Now, Mr. Keller, I don’t know if this is true or not but, I do know that
    my heart indeed rejoiced when I read it! And as my husband said, why would
    a Christian lie about something as serious as someone else’s soul? Yes,
    what a person believes does matter for Eternity. But who are you to say
    what Michael Jackson believed? How do you know that he DIDN’T give his
    life to the Lord before he died? That’s really between Michael and the
    Lord and the rest of us are just going to have to wait until we get there
    to find out. You, being an Evangelist, should know better than to judge
    others.

    Sincerely,

    Joie
    MJFC Team
    pr@mjfanclub.net

  3. Dcsfinest2000 said

    I believe if you are a fan of micheal jackson and sing along with his songs you should at least know who his savior is and you also should know what you are singing . Most people don’t even know what they are singing. Micheal Jackson played a great part in converting christians to satanism threw his songs and dance. The more you sing his music the stronger Satan gets . Just as if you were giving praise to Jesus Christ . The best part of micheal Jackson job writing songs that are for Satan and making people praise Satan without even knowing what they are doing . If you want an example of what I’m talking about, google the lyrics to micheal jackson song ” Blame it on the Boogie”. You will see a prime example of what micheal jackson craft was.

  4. prudence said

    dude hell isnt open , mj is is uncounscious. he doesnt know what is happening.

  5. Hors Service said

    @Dcsfinest

    1) “Heal The World” was surely a satanic song. It talks about peace, freedom, thinking about our children… It’s opposed to everything a real christian should believe, for sure^^

    2) Praising Satan without knowing it doesn’t make him stronger. It’s just words. You have to believe it to have any effect. Do you think that to praise God while at the same time believing He doesn’t exist is making God stronger?

    3) Satan could go as strong as he wants, God is always stronger (He’s omnipotent). But God didn’t wiped Satan out of the Creation, strange, isn’t?

    4) At least, when Satanists do evil things, they call it evil. They don’t call burning infidels a good thing.

    5) Open your eyes, it’s only music! Lewis Carrol was a pedophile, but I still appreciate Alice In Wonderland! MJ could be a bouddhist believing that ETs are on Earth, it doesn’t change anything, to like his music doesn’t imply that you have to agree with all his beliefs!

    Good day to you

    THRIIIIIIIILLER…

  6. dorian said

    aha! another michael fan. bon soir, hors!
    good music is good music. mj left a nice legacy with his music.

    evil has a strong presence on earth, doesn’t it? i wouldn’t mind if God wiped away all evil but that means he will have to wipe away a lot of people. he is far too kind, it seems.

  7. lawman2 said

    lol indeed!

  8. Hors Service said

    Elton John is gay. I like his music. I’m not gay.

    Am I normal?

    ^^

  9. well, that would depend on how often you listen to elton john.

    i’m gay and i listen to him only when he is on the radio.

    i wonder if he is going to burn in hell, too?

    so hors service, what does cause all that crazy homophobia? i get tired of it real fast.
    i’m not saying your homphobic, i just say you mentioned it in an earlier comment to kay?

  10. Roncoat said

    Blame it on the boogie..indeed. Such satanic drivel you can smell it’s presence a mile off.

  11. Ynna said

    As far as I know, Michael Jackson is in heaven. According to Mary Mary, Michael accepted Christ as personal Saviour three weeks before he died.

    According to the MARY MARY’s Facebook Page, Michael Jackson Received Jesus Christ.

    “Last night we received some good news from Terri McFaddin-Solomon who is good friends with Sandra Crouch. Three weeks ago Sandra and Andre’ spent some time with their close friend, Michael Jackson. Michael
    asked Andre` to play, “It Won’t Be Long And We’ll Be Leaving Here.”

    Michael then prayed with Sandra and Andre and accepted Christ into his heart. Now he’s singing in the heavenly choir! Our Hearts Rejoice.

  12. Hors Service said

    Oh, sorry Princess I didn’t noticed your comment a month ago… Well, I’m not homophobic (or homophile by the way), therefore I would like to understand why is there homophobics. Such a strange idea.

    Well, I thought that Michael was a Christian since a while now? Since he was a child?
    Whatever, even if he was buddhist it wouldn’t change anything about his music.

    Oh yeah MJ in the heavenly choir! And on the Last Day, he will sing Thriller!^^ Can’t wait for the apocalypse!:p

  13. Roncoat said

    If Michael Jackson had truly received Jesus Christ then Jesus would have kept him from dying in sin, as he did. Michael Jackson ain’t in heaven, this we know.

  14. obama the antichrist said

    wait….lawman commented….COME BACK LAWMAN BRING TTW WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    princess your gay? hmm didnt know that. o well :D im not homophobic at all! but what causes it is most likely christian beliefs. sodom and gomorrah was filled with beastiality and gays and God destroyed that area. He told Lot to flee. so i guess people do like Lot and flee. its quite sad actually.

    and DCsfinest…um do you think any form of dancing is bad? micheal jackson was a fantastic artist and man! his music was inspiring and just fun to dance to!

  15. Hors Service said

    @Roncoat

    MJ died in sin? Huh? How? I’ve heard that he died because of an excess of medics. It doesn’t look very sinfull to me.

    All christians are sinners, because If they were really christians God should resurrect them like He did with the Christ!^^ (No, I don’t think that but it’s just to be naughty)

  16. obama the antichrist said

    you are very right all christians are sinners. everyone is a sinner. but with Gods blessing and the sacrifice of Jesus we can all be in heaven.

    Dont we all tend to die in sin? cuz we are all sinners (as mentioned above)

  17. Hors Service said

    Oooh, that’s one of the american christian stuff that I don’t like… The idea that we are all, at the core and since our birth, sinners.
    I mean, why would I pay for Adam’s fault? He ate the apple, and for that we’re all doomed. Doesn’t seem fair to me.

    Oh yeah, but it’s God and it’s written in the Holy Bible, so it makes it fair.

  18. obama the antichrist said

    but we are. it is in the bible. Romans 3 23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.”

    life isnt fair…just gotta buck up and roll with the punches

  19. Roncoat said

    If Michael Jackson had received Jesus then he would have known better than to pump his veins full of pharmaceuticals, they tend to be satanic and prove more harmful than good in many cases. Jesus surely would have given the man a nights rest, and if he belonged to Jesus he would have patiently waited for it.

  20. obama the antichrist said

    there are druggies that are christians its a sad fact. people make mistakes its HUMAN!!! Michael was the king of POP not the king of GLORY! Just because he asked accepted jesus doesnt mean he is instantly the perfect christian! i hope i will be able to dance next to him on the streets of Gold!

  21. Princessxxx said

    obama the antichrist, you really surpise me.

  22. obama the antichrist said

    why is that?

  23. princessxxx said

    you watch chelsea lately and defend michael jackson. i like that in a christian.

  24. obama the antichrist said

    well i am different then most ;) thanks princess

  25. Princessxxx said

    you are welcome, :)

  26. Hors Service said

    @Roncoat

    Oh, so you’re THIS kind. Do you really think that believing in God helps more than taking pharmaceuticals? That pharmaceuticals are more harmfull than good?
    Then, I have 60 years of scientific results and an increase by more than 20 years of the life expectancy to prove you wrong.
    Strong belief didn’t prevent people from dying of the plague, or small pox, or polio, disease eliminated by medics.
    What if Medicine was the Hand of God?

    @OTA

    yep, but God is supposed to be fair^^ If we are sinners, let’s be sinners for a good reason. Like premarital sex :)

  27. Roncoat said

    I don’t expect you to believe the truth at all Hors Service, at least, not at this point in time.

  28. princessxxx said

    i guess what roncoat is saying is, christians don’t need pharmaceuticals, since jesus heals.
    that is the answer to our health care crisis.
    no more doctors for you roncoat. just prayer and fasting, good luck with that.

  29. Hors Service said

    And in fact you may be right, Princess, as strange as it seems. There’s documented cases of “miracles”, after pilgrims visited Lourdes, Compostelles or the Vatican.
    Or bathing in the Holy Waters of The Gange, by the way.
    In fact it doesn’t matter which God you pray, the center point is believing with absolute faith in your own healing. It’s a well-known effect, called effect “placebo”.
    Its dark counterpart exists and is called effect “nocebo”. It means that if you believe strongly enough to be ill, your body will produce itself a disease. If you’re concentrated enough, you could even produce localised illnesses: ulcer, headache, feet troubles…
    Another proof of the might of the human mind.

    It’s why every antibiotic test includes a “placebo sample”. People in this sample are the same as in the Test sample, but they are given a worthless product. Neither the patients nor the doctors treating them know which ones are the Test and which ones are the Placebo.
    Then the results are compared.
    If the pharmaceutical has more effect than the placebo, it is declared valid, and put on the market.

    Then Roncoat, I won’t disappoint you, so I won’t believe in the truth.
    Because you know, one cannot believe in truth. Truths are the things that goes on existing, whetever you believe in them or not.
    For example, results proving that antibiotics have an effect are disponible at your nearest medicine university.

    Oh, but it’s certainly a conspiracy, then? Thousands of doctors, patients and scientists involved, and noone is talking? A conspiracy that goes back to Flemming, and even before him Duchesnes in 1897?

    SOME pharmaceuticals aren’t working anymore, it’s true, and some firms still grasp on them. And even them do more good than harm, usually.
    It’s also true that americans are over-consumming pharmaceuticals.
    But that doesn’t prevent them from having an effect.
    If you want to oppose that pharmaceuticals in general do more harm than good, you’re going to have to present me arguments that all and every studies carried out since 60 years about antibiotics, corticoids, antipains, anticancers, antihistaminics and growth factors are wrong, false and lies.
    Not that only one study might be wrong.

    Then you will have to propose an explanation about why France has a higher life expectancy than the USA while having on of the biggest proportion of atheists in the population, and why Japan has the highest life expectancy in the world while being in major part shintoist and animist.

    Good luck.

  30. princessxxx said

    Hors says: “And in fact you may be right, Princess, as strange as it seems.”

    LOL, merci, j’ai mes moments. vous devriez devenir un auteur sur notre poste, Hors.

  31. laron said

    WELL ACTUALLY,

    michael jackson found jesus a month before his death(not to mention the notes all over his bathroom and the prayer beads in his deathbed)..so i guess he’s not there.

  32. dorian said

    dang, i missed this whole conversation…

    so laron , are you saying he’s in heaven because he found jesus or he’s not there because of the prayer beads which are not christian?

    hors – imo, the wine has a lot to do with the higher life expectancy in france and the teas are responsible for the higher life expectancy in japan.

    i take a lot of placebo (vitamin pills).

  33. obama the antichrist said

    mj isnt in hell and here is the proof

    http://tothewire.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/michael-jacksons-ghost/

  34. LIFE IS NOTHING said

    MICHAEL JACKSON AIN’T IN HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL, ND HE MIGHT NOT B IN HEAVEN AS WELL, BUT HE’S SOMEWHERE CHILLLLING ND HAPPY MORE THAN HE WAS ON EARTH!

  35. Roncoat, I am angry, appalled, and amused at the same time.

    Seriously? Do you and kay know each other? You two would be a perfect match. The so called pharmaceuticals you call satanic, saves lives. Sure it can be abused, everything can be abused. Caffeine, Alcohol, Pain Pills, Vitamins. Does this mean that Vitamins are also satanic. No, its absurd and just plain stupid. Not all pharmaceuticals are narcotics. Micheal Jackson was on several non-narcotic medications. He had a heart problem, he had a pain problem. Everyone forgets the accident that caused Micheal Jackson to need corrective surgery. His nose was fake because whoever was doing the special effects for that Pepsi commercial mistimed where Micheal was going to be and the pyrotechnics went off and poof no more nose. And who was there to make sure Micheal lived until he got to the Hospital. Who was there to make sure he didn’t die on the way to the hospital because of loss of blood or infection. What is the one profession in America no one recognizes exist until something life threatening happens? Who would stand in the mirror and ask Am I willing to do everything I can to save a life, no matter the situation? Who is the one kind of person you actually want to pull you out of a crossfire? Let me give you a hint, I am describing an EMT. These are people that uses their “satanic pharmaceuticals” and make sure you do not die. These are the people who does everything possible to make sure a doctor can treat you. These are the people who despite everything is willing to make the ultimate sacrifice to ensure that someone’s life is saved. Of course that is not a desired outcome, but sometimes it happens. I hope this does not happen, but I challenge you to take the same stance when an EMT drags you out of your home, your car, or whatever life threatening situation you are in. I dare you to say, I am missing a leg but God will ease the pain and make sure I stop bleeding and not have an infection. See what happens. More than likely you will either be in heaven or in a padded room after you have been treated. Go to Bosnia, Cambodia, Afganistan, or any other war torn countries riddled with land mines. Go up to a kid with his leg blown off and say that God will heal you, you just need to truly believe. This goes with the saying, wish in one hand and shit in another see which one fills up quicker. When someone says something as stupid and ignorant as what you said, I just hope it was a joke. I can’t believe someone can be that ignorant to say such a thing. Healthcare Professionals do not do their job for the money. They do it to save lives. The average doctor is paying off a mortgage and his or her student loans for the same amount of time. The student loans are usually more. (rough estimate it takes about 2.5 million dollars total for a ivy league college from undergrad to doctorate. The state universities are less but not by much. The average doctor will pay off his or her house usually before he or she pays the student loans off.) You are talking about one of the few professions that are most likely for you to get another humans blood on you in some shape or form every day.We are talking about a profession that preserves and saves lives, and to protect the patients from harm. Of course not all doctors and surgeons do this, if this was the case Abortion Clinics would have a rape, incest, or life threatening policy. (Which is something that should be made into a law.) And there would be no plastic surgeons. Even though they do have a place other than botox and boob jobs. Usually plastic surgeons (some actually believe this is a derogatory name, and prefer Reconstructive Surgery. But these surgeons usually perform surgery on those that have been scarred in some way because of a traumatic injury or through some other kind of surgery.)

    That kind of statement is what sickens me about organized Christianity. I really do hope that you were making a joke. Because if you were not YOU can tell those people who save lives, not for recognition or any other type of monetary gain, they are pushing “satanic pharmaceuticals.” These people are the embodiment of how a true Christian should be.

  36. Kaballah which was popularized by singer Madonna, signified by the “red string” bracelet he wore throughout the trial. He had during his life several high profile spiritual advisors, Orthodox Jew Rabbi Shmuley Boteach and New Age tool charlatan Deepak Chopra, a tool of satan I have warned you about in past Devotionals.

    I do love this statement. It shows the true ignorance of Billy Bob. Kaballah is different than what he is describing it. True Kaballah, was created by God. The fact is to practice true Kaballah you NEED to dedicate yourself to God the creator. The practice Madonna popularized in the 90′s was not true Kaballah. Deepak Chopra does not practice true Kaballah either. Mainly because she couldn’t properly explain it. Next thing you know Billy Bob is going to say the Talmud (A book that was inspired by God, the Christians just decided to leave it out because it went over additional laws, and explanations on how someone dedicated to God should live. The fact that many of the Apostles did practice Kaballah is very evident. Revalations 666 the number of the beast is a concept in Kaballah. 777 the divine number is also in the Kaballah. The fact to practice the true Kaballah, that you need to be able to answer specific questions with book, stanza, passage, and meaning about the Torah to actually practice it. Be of the age of 40 and be married with atleast one child. True Christian Kaballah is not that different either. Kaballah teaches of the power of numbers, and how each number corresponds with God. It is interesting stuff because scripturally Hell does not exist yet. Hell will not exist until the day of judgement. But that does not mean there is not a special little place that tortures the wicked for all eternity. Christianity just ignores the concept of 7 earths, 7 heavens, and presumbably on the Day of Judgment 7 hells. Even though it is apart of the Word of God. It is funny how they can just pick and choose what is the Word of God and what isn’t. Certain number patterns also exist in the bible. Jesus even taught Kaballistic practices. Ignorance is abound. The only truth Billy Bob ever says is about salvation. But of course there is a lot he implies on whether or not someone is truly saved.

  37. princessxxx said

    http://tothewire.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/liveprayers-bill-keller-and-his-latest-epic-fail-the-jonah-project/

  38. stephen said

    I have heard enough. People are defending MJ like he himself if God. Jesus is the only way, the only truth, and the only life. If MJ didn’t believe this he is in Hell. I saw This Is It and saw all of the world religion signs flashing above him on stage. World peace is man’s idea, not necessarily God’s. Men want to erase religion and become one in sin. God is peace but not in this world. Jesus was killed by the world. I can just hear them all singing We Are the World when they crucified Christ. If the world hates you, said Jesus, it’s not you that they hate but me.

  39. you sound like a real roberta muldoon

  40. roncoat said

    Stephen, I couldn’t agree more.

  41. dorian said

    stephen, it’s sad that you can’t see peace as being of this world and of God’s wish for us in this world. Mj was just a very good entertainer and talent. imo it shouldn’t be any reflection on religion/God/sin/satan etc..wanna talk religion? go to http://tothewire.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/the-problem-with-religion-in-america/

  42. roncoat said

    Dorian, what’s sad is the unification of religions. “Why is that sad?” you might ask. Well, Dorian it’s sad because it’s spiritual wickedness and it’s also adultery.

    Stephen, keep fighting the good fight and never back away from the truth.

  43. roncoat said

    Also, Dorian. Lucifer was prepared with music built into his being. If you think he isn’t using that as a weapon then you’ve certainly got another think coming.

    Proverb:25:20: As he that taketh away a garment in cold weather, and as vinegar upon nitre, so is he that singeth songs to an heavy heart.

    Eze:28:13: Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

  44. dorian9 said

    what’s sad is the power you give to lucifer. well, we all have a choice. wherever you find fulfillment is okay, as long as you do not impose your beliefs on others. peace be with you.

  45. roncoat said

    I didn’t create Lucifer. How could I have endowed him with anything? No, Lucifer is an ancient being. He was doing his thing in Tyre long before you were ever thought of.

    Eze:28:11: Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
    Eze:28:12: Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
    Eze:28:13: Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
    Eze:28:14: Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
    Eze:28:15: Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
    Eze:28:16: By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
    Eze:28:17: Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
    Eze:28:18: Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
    Eze:28:19: All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

    And yes, that did happen.

  46. dorian said

    save your time on the scripture cut and paste, we’ve heard them all. if you’re seeking audience go to http://www.venganza.org/ or for someone like-minded go to http://www.liveprayer.com/ they believe in your lake of fire .

  47. oh, and don’t forget, gold and precious jewels and satan, go to:

    http://tothewire.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/liveprayers-bill-keller-and-his-latest-epic-fail-the-jonah-project/

  48. dorian said

    oh yes, i forgot that. gold and precious jewels and satan go to:

    http://tothewire.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/liveprayers-bill-keller-and-his-latest-epic-fail-the-jonah-project/

  49. Something Satanic for your ears said

  50. roncoat said

    Flash block,,, It works every time!

  51. Something Satanic for your ears said

    oh, too bad you can’t say the same thing about prayer.

  52. roncoat said

    Prayers have been answered for me. I do realize that God’s work isn’t gonna always be giving me all of the things that I ask for, He isn’t a genie. God has plans that over ride mine. But prayer does work. It’s all in how you ask and what you ask for. It’s also about understanding when you don’t get what you’d like.

  53. kay~ms said

    Well said Roncoat. And don’t mind those two… Dorian is of that common erroneous (ridiculous and not possible)liberal view that all religions are true and world peace is the most important thing… NOT.. acknowledging Jesus and what He’s done for us. She perfectly represents the movement of this world to abolish Christianity.

    And P, aka Princess, aka any other odd poster here… he’s just a Bill Keller groupie who pretends like he hates him.

  54. dorian said

    hahaha kay, that’s a good one. better watch out you just might get the 10 inch nails at ya. maybe i should get some popcorn.

  55. Kay is all for telling everyone others beliefs even when she is wrong, and her limited capacity cannot comprehend what those people is saying. She also likes to put progressive thinkers in the same group as Liberals which they are not. I am going to start calling Kay’s political view Totalitarianism and see how she likes her views twisted in such a way that they are not. Wait it is more sylables than she can pronounce what is another word for Totalitarianism? Fascist..Until Kay recants and starts calling Progressives by their proper name (Progressives do not hold Liberal values. Liberal values are being free in every way possible. Progressives do try to take the Liberties of Americans away. Their reasoning really doesn’t matter because often the worst things come from the best intentions.) I will call Conservatives Totalitarianists or Facists..

    Also Kay, like her mentor Bill, wants this nation to become a theocracy. I am against theocracy in all forms, because theocracies do take away liberties. This nation was founded on Free-Thinking Principles, and living free. (True Liberal ideals.) This nation was founded on a government not dictating what religion you should be, as well as keeping religion from controlling a nation. Like Christianity did in England at the time. I would rather pay more taxes and be able to speak out against the government, assemble peacefully, be able to just lounge around on Sunday’s. Than be labeled as a criminal for doing all of the things the constitution allows me to do. Kay is saying this is poison..Kay is automatically saying that if you think every religion holds the same truths. Which it is true, unless you think everything must be literal..If you believe that then well I am sorry you would not understand the concept of one universal God. Nor would you understand how someone can accept and respect every religion. Because they all venerate the same being in some way.

    I will not explain my religious beliefs, as I have time and time again. Roncoat I have learned Kay is too thick, and too set in her ways to believe anyone can think differently than her and be right. Kay thinks she is always right, and most of the time she is not. Roncoat if you disagree with her in anyway, you are automatically a progressive thinker. (Not a Liberal, True Liberals are willing to fight and die for the ideals in the constitution. True Liberals want every human being to be free. True Liberals have died for the ideals in the Constitution. I will be damned before I allow Kay to drag those men and women’s acts through the mud. I would rather my soul be damned for all eternity than to allow our government to force religion on every single citizen. Jesus was a Liberal by Kay’s terms. Kay is just too thick, too indoctrinated to see and understand his teachings. If she wasn’t she wouldn’t hold Bill in the high regard she does. Bill’s actions and preachings are not Christ like at all. When in the Gospels did Christ ever say things with the tone and inflection Bill does? When did Christ ever say “Believe in me, and follow the teachings of my Church and you will go to heaven.” He never did. He never actually preached to create a dedicated religion. He did teach his disciples to deliver his message across the world.

  56. roncoat said

    Joh:6:51: I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

    Joh:8:12: Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

    Joh:11:25: Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

    Joh:14:6: Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

    Joh:15:5: I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

    Joh:8:21: Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
    Joh:8:22: Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
    Joh:8:23: And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
    Joh:8:24: I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

  57. dorian said

    e_e, imo, anyone who just cuts and pastes scripture and expects thinking individuals to read them, with the expectation of everyone “getting” whatever his indoctrinated mind is trying to say, is only committing blasphemy. roncoat, you know in your heart what your intentions are.

    anyone who says things like “…what’s sad is the unification of religions. and “it’s spiritual wickedness and it’s also adultery.” is wanting theocratic fascism (good catch, e_e) and surely has got some self-reckoning issues. pity that you can’t see beyond the speck in your own eye, oh righteous one. maybe if you can find some joy in this “forsaken” world, your spirit won’t be so downtrodden and you can see beyond posting your irreverence onto a satanic michael jackson page. hehehe

  58. roncoat said

    I really don’t expect any scripture that I post here to be read. I just post it hoping that someone will read it. Someone somewhere may read it and never acknowledge that they did. That’s okay. Besides,,,it was a response to something Enkill_eridos had posted.

    As far as what I’m wanting is concerned the only thing I want is peace with God and salvation for my family. I would also like for you to repent and be baptized to receive the remission of sins. I would like for you to receive the Holy Ghost, and for you to believe on Jesus Christ to save you.But that’s up to you. There is a peace like you’ve never felt available to you. Please look into that.

    That’s all I have to say about that. Unless you’ve got any questions.

  59. kay~ms said

    Dorian, Roncoat wasn’t just “cutting and pasting”… he was correcting EE where he said: “When did Christ ever say “Believe in me, and follow the teachings of my Church and you will go to heaven.” He never did. ”

    Those verses are from the Bible, not Roncoat’s “indoctrinated mind”. Those verses are clear. The “righteous one” is using the Bible as his guide… what exactly are you using?? Nothing but your own suppositions.. oh “righteous” one. You always crack me up. You too EE.

  60. Enkill_Eridos said

    Jesus never did say you have to belong to any religion to get into heaven. Therefore you can be saved just as long as you believe that Jesus died for my sins.

    What you say Kay is that if you are not a Christian you cannot go to heaven. What I am saying is it doesn’t matter if you’re a Christian or not. Just as long as you wholeheartedly believe in Jesus as your savior from sin. That he paid the price for our sins. He died and stayed in the underworld for three days, then rose again and ascended into heaven. All you have to do is believe that the cost of your sins was paid by blood and judgement. YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE LABELED AS A CHRISTIAN TO GO TO HEAVEN.

    I believe that is because there is one all encompassing universal God. That all religions stemmed from an Imperfect Understanding of this one entity that created everything. The bible is the conceptual word of God. All of the meanings of every parable is the message of God to man. The meanings is God’s word. Being imperfect beings we did not understand that. So he sent to us another message in the form of Jesus. Jesus showed the world there is but one God, and you don’t have to be born Jewish to be able to worship him. Which was what the Jewish Religion was teaching at the time. See Jesus took away our need for religion to try to get to God. All you have to do is believe he died for everyone’s sins.

    So tell me Kay, where was Roncoat disagreeing with me? I don’t see where in those passages he talked about an actual physical organized Church as a need to be “truly saved”.

    I will ask again, show me one place in the Bible where Jesus actually said that we had to belong to a organized Church to be saved? Show me one place in the Bible where Jesus actually said that you have to follow a certain religion to believe in him? Show me where it says that only a Christian can be saved.

    I’ll save you the trouble, it isn’t in there. No where does Jesus say you have to follow the teachings of Jesus, or that you have to belong to a certain religion to go to heaven. All you have to do is believe in him (Jesus) and you will have everlasting life. So tell me how you are right and I am wrong in this instance?

  61. roncoat said

    Organized religion has been corrupted and many churches are given to false doctrine. However,,, we are commanded in several places of the Bible by Jesus Christ Himself that we are to not just to be hearers of the Word but to be doers of the Word. To behave otherwise is self deception.

    M’t:7:21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
    M’t:7:22: Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    M’t:7:23: And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
    M’t:7:24: Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
    M’t:7:25: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
    M’t:7:26: And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
    M’t:7:27: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
    M’t:7:28: And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
    M’t:7:29: For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.

  62. dorian said

    not likely that God intends for heaven to be an exclusive club for christians. satan’s hell would not be entirely made up of one group of sinners, either. the christians will be joined by muslims and everyone else. and let’s not forget that stopover or holding tank, purgatory. sister cecilia said that the unbaptized souls go straight to purgatory when they die. nordic myths tell a different story but we won’t get into that. religion is great for scaring little children who grow up to be scared adults. europeans have a good definition of heaven and hell:

    the european definition or heaven and hell

    and this is for roncoat. i have a hunch you’re a fan, and you’d probably like to see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EL_QC-eYZw

  63. Princessxxx said

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-weber/steve-and-alec-or-alec-an_b_491845.html?page=2&show_comment_id=41928158#comment_41928158

  64. vous mentze Mj a tous fait pour qu’on l’aime il est pas sataniste vous mentez je vous déteste vous etes que des afreux bien sur c’est juste apres sa mort kon commence a lancé des rumeurs sur lui bande de Co***** jvou déteste !

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  66. Hors Service said

    Hey guys I didn’t noticed it earlier but Chocolatgirl is speaking french!
    I could traduce to you if you want, but it’s just a troll. A so pathetic one that it might be for fun.

  67. dorian said

    hors – why don’t you engage chocolatgirl en français?
    yeah it might be fun. she will be surprised adkob has a native french author!

  68. Hors Service said

    Well I don’t know if she would come back:D
    Her website is a bit lame…

    Btw I’m going to try to supress the spam comment

  69. Hum, I don’t seem to be able to do it… How can I?

  70. brandi said

    Is Michael in Hell? I pray he isn’t! But according to the Word of God, if he didn’t accept Christ as His LORD AND SAVIOR…..he is. Many of you on here have wrong info about him being saved. Andre Crouch on facebok stated that he DID NOT lead him in the prayer of salvation. Someone on here said they are a born again Christian and is gay. Someone said as long you believe that Jesus died for your sins you are saved. Both of those things are contrary to the Word Of God. If you are a follower of Jesus then you will take the WHOLE word and apply it. We cannot take what we want from the word and make it suit our lives. We have to believe and and receive all of what it says. It is impossible to please God without faith. And it is impossible to receive eternal life without making God’s son your Lord and Savior. Yes we know Him as savior, but it is when we know Him as Lord that we will see His true presence manifest in our daily lives. Jesus said you will know them by their fruit. What fruit? The fruit of the Spirit; love, joy, peace, temperance, gentleness, faith, meekness, longsuffering, goodness, (galatians 5:22). So if you say you are a “christian” and these things are not being displayed, you are not walking with Jesus! But are working in the flesh! And it’s works are adultery,fornication,uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, emulations, wrath, witchcraft, hatred, variance, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drukenness, revellings, and such the like….(galatians 5:19-21) . And that scripture says people who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. That’s why Jesus has to be Lord of your life…. you can’t pull away from those things without His guidance, strength and help. And to receive complete salvation you have to confess out of your mouth before men, who He is to you.No we can’t and should not judge are brothers and sisters because the Word is our judge. But we when we are completely obedient to the word of God He will allow us to be able to judge rightly and righteously. The message of Jesus is not about hate but LOVE. Because there is no greater love than for a man to lay down his life for a friend…..as did Jesus for all of us. Including Mike. Now if he received the gift if salvation….only God knows!

  71. Daniel said

    You are more likely to find god under rock than in church. Is it not more important we treat each other with respect and compassion than believing in God. There is nothing more disturbing than someone who thinks they have the high oral ground.

  72. Daniel said

    Maybe you should obey the old testament and stone adulterers. Or do you just pick the bits that fit in with your sensibilities. The bible was written by people who thought the world was flat and anyone who contradicted there belief was violently silenced. I am glad we have laws protecting us from religious nutters enforcing their beliefs onto the public through the political system. Religion failed the human race.

  73. Daniel said

    What sort of person worships a good that condems someone to eternal damnation because they did not meet a certain standard. I think your beliefs are hiding some real issues Roncoat. How many wars have been for your God, WAKE UP.

  74. princessxxx said

    higher ORAL ground?

    that costs $20.

  75. Iesha said

    I don’t know which side i’ll be taking

  76. Catelin Yu said

    So…which is exactly the truth? I’m really curious about this topic…and has listening to MJ’s songs will rot our mind?

  77. Enkill_Eridos said

    It doesn’t matter..anyone who says MJ’s songs will rot our mind is intolerant. The sad thing is the way we remember Micheal Jackson. I mean yes, there were those allegations (no conviction, so innocent until proven guilty by a court of law. We must remember this as it is a cornerstone to our legal system. Unlike in Italy obviously.)and I believe he did go senile, sometime after his marriage to the King of Rock n Roll’s daughter. I think that, he knew for a long time that he was dieing. I think that to speculate about his private life, tarnishes the meaning of the work he did do.

    Micheal Jackson did give money to different charities that helped unfortunate and terminally ill children.

    Micheal Jackson did perform and write a lot of songs with a clear message of tolerance. Not every song mind you, but I can think of a few off hand. The most controversial of the time Black and White. Which had a message that said it was okay if you’re partner has a different skin tone, we are all human beings. Other artists have helped change the way we think, its just that I think Micheal Jackson’s private life is just that. He was an American Citizen, he did have the right to privacy like everyone else.

    Personally, from growing up listening to his music I cannot remember one that actually speaks of hitting women, different colored people in a negative light, or any with cursing. I maybe wrong, but I don’t remember ever hearing the f-word in his music. He was a master showman, and he did have a message of brotherly love, and tolerance in many songs. Personally, just from listening to his music I cannot think of any reason to think he wasn’t a Christian. But I make it a habit of not caring about other people’s religion. This is basically because people have given their lives to ensure muslims, jews, christians, “pagans”, and any other religion. Has a place in the world where the government will never tell them what to believe, where they can speak about their religion, and where they can live peacefully and openly be apart of any religion they wish. Men and women have died because they believed they were fighting for those rights. But back to the point, there are quite a few songs that Micheal Jackson did that promotes messages that the Gospels of Jesus Christ say were the message of Christ. I personally think Micheal Jackson was more Christian than any so-called conservative Christian. It’s a shame that his memory has been muddied with stories like these.

    So here’s the truth Catelin. Jesus preached about, equality, he preached about tolerance, non-violent living, and to love one another especially if you have strong negative feelings towards that person. MJ wrote and performed songs that spoke of equality, tolerance, non-violent living (The song Beat-It would be the best example of that.), and brotherly love. (Black and White the obvious example of that.)

    So based on the verifiable truths I’ve just mentioned, will listening to MJ’s music will rot our brains? No. Does it really matter to the public at large what his religion was? No. Did Micheal Jackson change the world in a positive way thorough his music? I personally believe he did. He united millions of fans in a less tolerant time than the one we live in. He united millions of fans, during a time of fear. His music and his actions made people happy. His music still makes people happy. So if someone tells, you that Micheal Jackson and his music will send you to hell..Tell that person to just Beat-It.

  78. Enkill_Eridos said

    Lyrics to Black and White

    Black And White lyrics

    The ink is black
    The page is white
    Together we learn
    To read and write.

    A child is black
    A child is white
    The whole world looks
    Upon the sight
    A beautiful sight.

    And now a child
    Can understand
    That this is the law
    Of all the land
    All the land.

    The world is black
    The world is white
    It turns by day
    and then by night.

    A child is black
    A child is white
    Together they grow
    To see the light
    To see the light.

    And now at last
    We plainly see
    They’ll have a dance
    Of Liberty
    Liberty.

    The world is black
    The world is white
    It turns by day
    And then by night.

    A child is black
    A child is white
    The whole world looks
    Upon the sight
    A beautiful sight.

    The world is black
    The world is white
    It turns by day
    And then by night.

    A child is black
    A child is white
    Together they grow
    To see the light
    To see the light.

    The world is black
    The world is white
    It turns by day
    And then by night.

    A child is black
    A child is white
    Together they grow
    To see the light
    To see the light
    Come on
    Get it
    Get it
    OOOhh ya
    Ya
    Keep it up now
    Around the world
    Little boys
    Little girls
    Yaaa.

  79. Enkill_Eridos said

    They told him don’t you ever come around here
    Don’t wanna see your face, you better disappear
    The fire’s in their eyes and their words are really clear
    So beat it, just beat it

    You better run, you better do what you can
    Don’t wanna see no blood, don’t be a macho man
    You wanna be tough, better do what you can
    So beat it, but you wanna be bad

    Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
    No one wants to be defeated
    Showin’ how funky and strong is your fight
    It doesn’t matter who’s wrong or right
    Just beat it, beat it
    Just beat it, beat it
    Just beat it, beat it
    Just beat it, beat it

    They’re out to get you, better leave while you can
    Don’t wanna be a boy, you wanna be a man
    You wanna stay alive, better do what you can
    So beat it, just beat it

    You have to show them that you’re really not scared
    You’re playin’ with your life, this ain’t no truth or dare
    They’ll kick you, then they beat you,
    Then they’ll tell you it’s fair
    So beat it, but you wanna be bad

    Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
    No one wants to be defeated
    Showin’ how funky and strong is your fight
    It doesn’t matter who’s wrong or right

    Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
    No one wants to be defeated
    Showin’ how funky and strong is your fight
    It doesn’t matter who’s wrong or right

    Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
    No one wants to be defeated
    Showin’ how funky and strong is your fight
    It doesn’t matter who’s wrong or right
    Just beat it, beat it
    Beat it, beat it, beat it

    Beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
    No one wants to be defeated
    Showin’ how funky and strong is your fight
    It doesn’t matter who’s wrong or who’s right

    Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
    No one wants to be defeated
    Showin’ how funky and strong is your fight
    It doesn’t matter who’s wrong or right

    Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
    No one wants to be defeated
    Showin’ how funky and strong is your fight
    It doesn’t matter who’s wrong or right
    Just beat it, beat it
    Beat it, beat it, beat it

    Beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
    No one wants to be defeated
    Showin’ how funky and strong is your fight
    It doesn’t matter who’s wrong or who’s right

    Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
    No one wants to be defeated
    Showin’ how funky and strong is your fight
    It doesn’t matter who’s wrong or right

    Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
    No one wants to be defeated
    Showin’ how funky and strong is your fight
    It doesn’t matter who’s wrong or right

    Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
    No one wants to be defeated
    Just beat it, beat it
    Beat it, beat it, beat it

  80. princessxxx said

    what happened to t;he part about satan worshipper bill keller? did she get amd about that too and call her lawyers?

  81. Enkill_Eridos said

    I did that so that this post wouldn’t be complained against for defamation of character. Unfortunately, those things are covered under the DCMA. I’m sorry for the editing, but I want to reduce the chances for another complaint.

  82. I THINK WHOEVER WROTE THIS WAS VERY IGNORANT AND SHOULDN’T HAVE DONE THIS. WHO GAVE YOU THE AUTHORITY TO JUGDE SUCH A BLESSED,TALENTED,PRECIOUS PERSON WHO WAS GIVEN AS A GIFT TO THIS WORLD JUST LIKE YOU WERE.HERE IS A VIDEO TO PROVE THAT MICHEAL HAD QUIT BEING A JEHOVAHS WITNESS,AND HE IS CELEBRATING HIS FIRST CHRISTMAS.

    I BELIVE YOU AS A CHRISTIAN SHOULD NEVER JUDGE THE WERE ABOUTS A PERSON IS IN THEIR AFTER LIFE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU, DID YOU LIVE WITH MICHEAL JACKSON?DID YOU EVER MEET MICHEAL JACKSON? DID YOU KNOW WHAT MICHEAL JACKSON DID IN HIS SPARE TIME?(HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A PERSON WHO PRAISES THE LORD FOR HOURS) DID MICHEAL JACKSON EVER TELL YOU THAT HE DIDNT BELIEVE IN JESUS? DO YOU HAVE PROOF THAT MICHEAL JACKSON WAS A SATANIST? I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE JUDGE ESPECIALLY CHRISTIANS(IM ASSUMING YOU ARE ONE) DOESN’T GOD SAY THAT WE SHOULD NEVER JUDGE, WE SHOULD LEAVE ALL THAT TO HIM THE PERSON WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY WHO IS THE MOST HIGH, SEATED ON THE THRONE .MICHEAL JACKSON WAS A MAN WHO SHOWED THE WORLD WHAT LOVE IS THROUGHOUT HIS SONGS AND IT WAS VERY CLEAR, SO HOW DO YOU SAY THAT HE WAS POSSESSING DEMONS INTO PEOPLE WITH HIS SONGS?, HE WAS A FAITHFUL GIVER WHO CHANGED THE LIVES OF THOSE WHO WHERE LESS FORTUNATE, ISNT THAT WHAT JESUS TEACHES?.I BET YOU’RE THE KIND OF PERSON WHO PASSES BY THE BEGGER ON THE CORNER OF YOUR STREET AND NEVER BOTHERS TO DROP A QUARTER IN THEIR HAT. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, IF US CHRISTIANS WANT TO CHANGE THE WORLD AND WITNESS TO PEOPLE AND BRING THEM TO CHRIST I THINK WE HAVE TO CLEAN OUR ATTITUDES UP FIRST, READ THE WORD, POLISH OUR THINKING, SO I SUGGEST YOU LISTEN TO “MAN IN THE MIRROR” AND CHNGE YOUR WAYS.

    KIRSTY

  83. VANAJO said

    this is a testimony of a girl from ecuador that was taken to heaven and hell by Jesus and she said that she saw Selena, JohnPaul 2nd and Michael Jackson in hell…

    http://www.actiweb.es/encinardemamre/testimonio_de_angeliza_zambrano.html

  84. VANAJO said

    The point here is that we all should know that the Bible says that there is a Heaven and a Hell and that instead of arguing about who got saved or not… Let’s make sure that we are serving the Lord Jesus christ the Son of God.. There is no salvation other that HIM; it is only by Jesus that we can enter Heaven. If God revealed to this preacher that MJ is in hell; let’s just be aware that there is a hell and a Heaven that we need to make sure that we get to Heaven by accepting the most beautiful git of salvation that Jesus gave us by dying for us. If he really is there or not we are not going to change anything by arguing about this. What we can change and work on is in our own salvation. Let’s take this as an advise. Jesus loves you and He is coming soon for his church. Let’s make sure we obey His world the Bible. God bless all of you. AND REMEMBER THIS ONE THING satan and his demons are professional liars and expert in subliminal messages and occultism watch out what king of music you are liseting to.

  85. lucy said

    i think u should see this
    tell me what goes on in uur head while u read it D; i’m soo disapointed
    MJ FANS I KNOW ITS HARD FOR YOU TO BELIEVE BUT YOU’RE GOIG TO HAVE TO EXCEPT THAT
    HE ALSO WORSHIPPED HIMSELF AS A CELEBRITY. IN HIS HOUSE HE HAD A PHOTO WITH HIM REPLACING JESUS IN THE LAST SUPPER/\\

    OPEN UR EYES PEOPLE… I’M SORRY FOR THE LOSS OF HIS SOUL..

    here are the same quotes a little more bluntly

    http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Rock-n-Roll/satanic_quotes.htm

  86. Where are the MJ songs? Honestly..this shows your true colors. Because you don’t know the songs and what they did. Instead you want to hate because he wasn’t openly Christian? His father was openly Christian and there are rumors of abuse. So people like you call his music satanic when they don’t even know what is going on. Much like the Hotel California lyrics..If you want I can break them down for you if you are very lost on the actual meaning of the song. Take ICP for instance. For years they have been singing satanic sounding stuff, but they slipped in good Christian Concepts…MJ never said anything satanic as far as I know. The meaning of many of his songs actually coincides more with the message of Christ than most major “big” churches. What we should be wary of is the Christian churches and denominations that do not teach every human being no matter ethnic background, or color of skin can be saved. The churches that preach hateful things against homosexuals and not recognizing their own theology. Beware of the Churches that speak about violence against other people. (against the teachings of Christ.) Beware of the Churches and pastors that claim to be prophets but turn out to be false in their predictions.

  87. Gordon G. said

    There is no doubt that Michael Jackson is indeed in Hell. Can any true Christian give us all here a good and legitimate reason why Michael Jackson would be in GOD’s Pure, Sinless and Holy Heaven? Please, do not respond with the stereotypical reason that “he was a ‘good’ person. He ‘loved’ people, especially little, innocent children. He was so ‘humble’ and he helped the poor and needy. He was SOOOO talented that all that talent could have ONLY been from GOD!, etc., etc.” The closest that we all know from the info written about Mr. Jackson and from the very words from Michael Jackson’s OWN MOUTH during interviews, (and from the lyrics of the songs he wrote and sang!), is that he had attended the Jehovah Witness church for awhile, in his pre-Thriller days. Did Michael sing songs that gave Glory to GOD and to His Son JESUS CHRIST (YAHUSHUA in Hebrew)???? Did Michael involve himself in some Ministry that shared the Hope of Salvation through YAHUSHUA (JESUS)???? Did he help to financially support TRUE Ministries of GOD’s Kingdom Work on Earth with all of that $$$$ from his career???? Did he publically express a love for GOD and His Son YAHUSHUA (JESUS CHRIST)???? Did Michael Jackson make any attempt to TRY to live a sexually pure life???? I could go on and on….but, my point is clear. The Lord YAHUSHUA (JESUS CHRIST) said in the Scriptures that you can know a person by their Fruits. Be those fruits Good or Evil. Michael was out to promote ONE PERSON, and it wasn’t JESUS CHRIST (YAHUSHUA). It was the person on his album covers. That life he lived on Earth breeds Hell, not Heaven.

  88. Princessxxx said

    I CAN GIVE ONE GAWD DAM GOOD REASON GORDON. ONLY GOD CANJ UDGE A MAN’S HEART. YOU CAN’T.

    SORRY HONEY, BUT YOUR JUDGEMENTAL ATTITUDE IS ONLY REPRESENTING ONE PERSON AND THAT PERSON IS YOU, NOT JESUS. F OFF

  89. Kaye said

    http://dcicons.org/forum/topics/angelica-zambrano-dead-for read this story. A girl died for 23 hours saw the hell and heaven. And He saw Michael Jackson going to hell. At first she can’t believe but god explained that MJ has been a satanist for fame. I know many of you will not believe this and many of you will think that this is just a joke. but i encourage you to visit the link i’ve shared and read it all.

  90. Hors Service said

    @Kaye

    Of course. And during this 23 hours she was only concerned with MJ’s fate. Interesting, MJ died quite a while ago, also.
    I mean, I would meet God, I would have other questions. Like for example, “If you’re so Love, why kill every first-born son of Egyptians?”, or “Where do you come from, anyway?”, or such…
    I don’t believe it’s a joke, I think you’re serious, and that’s even worse…

  91. princessxxx said

    hi hors. lookin good. http://princessxxx.wordpress.com/2011/04/19/burn-the-koran-liveprayer-felon-keller/

  92. In my opinion, it is presumptuous of Bill Keller (or anyone) to say they know for sure whether or not any particular person is in Hell or not. I would go further and say it is presumptuous to claim absolute knowledge that such a place even exists.

    I like Hors Service’s comment @Kaye, especially “I don’t believe it’s a joke, I think you’re serious, and that’s even worse…”

  93. Enkill_Eridos said

    According to the bible Hell as it was described has yet to be created. According to the Book of Revelation Hell will be created on judgement day. Now there is a special place in Heaven according to Moses where fallen angels are kept to serve punishment (chains cold as ice everything else is hot with fire and brimstone.) I mean we are talking about a place that is just as mythical as Hades or Mount Olympus..I am not saying it isn’t possible for such a place to exist..but according to the theology in the bible it has yet to be created.

  94. Roncoat said

    No, hell has been created already according to the Bible. It’s pretty clear that hell is a waiting place where people go to wait for judgment day. It’s also cleat that if a person dies in their sins, like Michael Jackson did, that they go to hell.

  95. ALL I CAN SAY IS, PLEASE PEOPLE REPENT FROM YOUR SINS AND ASK GOD FOR FORGIVENESS FOR YOUR SINS AND ASK HIM TO SAVE YOU FROM YOUR SINS, ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR LORD AND PERSONAL SAVIOR. IM BEGGING YOU ALL, SEE YA ALL IN HEAVEN (THROUGH THE JESUS WAY}

  96. dorian said

    gil ray,what did you think about the may 21 judgment day prediction? did you prepare for a rapture, just in case?

    i had a garage sale that day. an “end of the world” garage sale.
    well the world didn’t end, so i pushed through with my move to san francisco.
    i know there are plenty of liberals and sinners there but it’s home.

    roncoat, still condemning mikey to hell? sounds like you’re “pretty clear” about hell. know anyone that’s been there? how do you know hell exists?

    e_e those chains cold as ice with fire and brimstone on the side – better than waterboarding. i’d confess to anything.

    hello tbg, bonjour hors, buongiorno, princess! hey, where’s kay? is she back with steven?

  97. elen felix said

    All I know which is from the Bible is that we can be saved if we accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior at the same time doing good deeds based on His commandments. Without the other, it’s not called “being saved’.

  98. precieux said

    hi there,
    I saw all this bullshit of mj in heaven or hell AND i was so eager and tempted to write somethin about it .

    Firstly of all ,I truely believe that some of u guys speakin about mj themselves do not have an idea as to where they would be headin to after death…AND if mj was to meet u face to face ,none of u guys would have the courage to tell him right on his face ” man ur goin 2 die in hell”…

    Secondly we are all humans created by the MOST HIGH and have no authority to comment or to speak about a persons life or to judge especially after that persons death.

    Thirdly i am NOT a great fan of mj to defend him but this is what i think.

    GOD GAVE MJ THE GIFT OF LIFE AND HE HAD ALSO DECIDED THE END OF IT.HE TOOK CARE OF MJ WHEN HE WAS ALIVE AND WILL DECIDE WHERE MJ GOES.

    so for the time being , instead of wasting time deciding about a soul’s future why don’t we enjoy our lives and mind our own business!!!!!!

    have a mind blowing day ahead :-D

  99. Roncoat said

    God is known for His judgements. It’s pretty cut and dried, according to the Word of God when a person dies in their sins they go to hell. There’s no guess work involved in that. In fact, when we see God execute His judgement it’s meant to wake the rest of us up from our sins.

    There’s a huge contrast between men and women dying in sin and those who died in the truth. If people can’t see that then it’s only because the hour is getting late.

  100. Anonymous said

    “…according to”

    therein lies the danger in society. when people don’t think for themselves and believe and follow the likes of bill keller, harold camping, etc…
    God’s judgment? God’s word? hardly. rather, out of the mouth of people like roncoat, precieux, et al; and those who seem to like to speak for God.

  101. Enkill_Eridos said

    @Roncoat which passage actually states that hell was created before Judgement Day? Because the word in Hebrew that is translated as hell in the Old Testament is Sheol (english transliteration.) but Sheol was a completely different place than hell according to the bible it seems more like Sheol is where the Catholics got the concept of purgatory. The firey pit is described in Revalations..but everywhere else it talks of a dark pit. Gehinnom is the word for Hell, and the scriptures based on that in the Old Testament is what a prophet saw on the day of Judgement. Not saying that the doom and gloom preachers are not correct, but the way they present it is a finality that has yet come to pass theologically speaking. There is still hope to be saved, and show your active faith. (Which doesn’t mean good works, it means you actively try to live your life faithful to God and the commandments given by him through Jesus Christ. Jesus taught of living a way that is nonjudgemental, accepting, and loving of all of God’s Creations. Even if they do not see your God as the same, you just have to spread the seed of the gospel to someone once. And that’s all you can really do as a man. Love thy neighbor is the highest commandment after I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery; you shall have no other gods before me.

  102. Enkill_Eridos said

    There is only one way to get to heaven. Believe Jesus Christ died for your sins, and follow his teachings. Which if you actually believed he died for your sins you would incorporate the teachings and commandments of God through his son Jesus Christ. The bible puts this logic plain as day as the only way to get to heaven, and I don’t think many Christians get that.

  103. Roncoat said

    I know that there are many people that would like to pass this off as a parable, but that’s just a fantastic stretch of the truth. When the Word of God says there was,,,,it means that THERE WAS.

    Luke:16:19: There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
    Luke:16:20: And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
    Luke:16:21: And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
    Luke:16:22: And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
    Luke:16:23: And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
    Luke:16:24: And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
    Luke:16:25: But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
    Luke:16:26: And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
    Luke:16:27: Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house:
    Luke:16:28: For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
    Luke:16:29: Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
    Luke:16:30: And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
    Luke:16:31: And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

    Jesus had plenty to say about hell. Look intro it.

    Revelation:20:11: And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
    Revelation:20:12: And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
    Revelation:20:13: And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
    Revelation:20:14: And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
    Revelation:20:15: And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

  104. Roncoat said

    I realize that masny people try to pass off the following scriptures as just a parable, but that’s just a tremendous stretch of the truth. When the Word of God says there was…..then THERE WAS.

    Luke:16:19: There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
    Luke:16:20: And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
    Luke:16:21: And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
    Luke:16:22: And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
    Luke:16:23: And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
    Luke:16:24: And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
    Luke:16:25: But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
    Luke:16:26: And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
    Luke:16:27: Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house:
    Luke:16:28: For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
    Luke:16:29: Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
    Luke:16:30: And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
    Luke:16:31: And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

    Jesus had lots to say about hell. Look into it, he was very serious about it.

    Revelation:20:10: And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
    Revelation:20:11: And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
    Revelation:20:12: And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
    Revelation:20:13: And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
    Revelation:20:14: And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
    Revelation:20:15: And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

    And there it is. Death and hell giving up the dead that are in them for the judgmenent of God to take place.

    Seems pretty plain to me.

  105. Anonymous said

    No one can ever say where is MJ right now. well, if we would judge him only the things we physically seen when he was still alive and base everything from there – positive he’s in hell!! but who are we to judge? we don’t know if he did accepted God or not.. well many people did the process of accepting – through their mouth only and not with their heart.. MJ is dead, we can’t change that, what we can change is our own life.. focus on ourselves before looking into others.. when we are sure we are good enough, in words, action and mind, let’s start sharing …

  106. Roncoat said

    Why do my comments keep getting deleted?

  107. Anonymous said

    The chances are hell doesn’t exist. Or heaven. There’s no proof. There is proof, however, that you are a stupid, ignorant, judgmental piece of crap.

  108. Anonymous said

    Oh Jesus this, Jesus that. Bloody hell, you’re are the maddest Christian I have ever seen. Name one piece of evidence that proves God even exists.

  109. dorian said

    hello everyone – i see that this is re-threading again.
    anonymous, beware. this site has been known to attract fundamentalists.
    roncoat, i approved your comment. i’ve been slacking on my administrative duties. haven’t peeked in for some time. i know. new posts..new posts…

  110. MIKY said

    IF MJ MADE A PACT WITH THE DEVIL, WHY HE HELPED SO MANY CHILDREN?WHY CHILDREN SING,,HEAL THE WORLD”??

  111. Roncoat said

    Children, heal the world.? Since when?

  112. Anonymous said

    Dorian
    It’s a free world, and I’m entitled to free speech. I am allowed to express my opinion. I didn’t say anything racist, or offensive, just what I think.

  113. dorian said

    roncoat, yes, yours and everybody else’s opinions will be given venue here. there are only a couple of us administering the blog part-time and sometimes days go by before we get here and there are comments in the moderation bucket. we apologize for delays in comment approvals…

  114. Anonymous said

    god is real!If not who created everything?

  115. Anonymous said

    Read a science textbook.
    if i said this to an alien who has never experienced life on earth and said: what is more logical, some random thing making everything on earth, who’s only proof of existence is a book, or evolution, humans evolving from what we used to be over a time (which has actually been scientifically proven). What do you think it would say?

  116. Roncoat said

    That alien would probably say something like theis; “Boys we’ve got a real live one on the line now. He doesn’t believe in a creator, he thinks they’ve created themselves. Beelzebub, fire up the pits because this joker is gonna help us fill them up in short order. What a moron!”

  117. Anonymous said

    well thes only 1 way 2 find out: lets see where you end up where you die (then you’ll look like a moron!) Nobody knows what it’s like to die, because when you’re dead, you’re dead!
    I don’t mind people who just think that they’re religion doesn’t need a scientific explanation, and appreciate science, and who label it as faith. But when people try to be Mr Smart ass about it, with NO evidence, that annoys me.

  118. Enkill_Eridos said

    +1 to Anonymous

  119. Roncoat said

    We worship a God of enlightenment, and reason, He wouldn’t act drastically without warning us where our folly will led us.

    For those of you who choose to worship a god of darkness, mystery is the order of the day. Doesn’t that create anxiety?

    Personally, I would like to believe that God is trying to teach us all something instead of just leaving us in the dark to feel our way around.

  120. Anonymous said

    Ha ha lol

  121. Anonymous said

    Roncoat, what would you say if I said I were a 12 yr old boy( this is the anonymous who’s posted the majority of the last comments.)

  122. Roncoat said

    Anonymous, what’s your point?

  123. jo said

    according to Maxima Zambrano who died for 23 hrs she went to heaven and hell..and when she was in hell michael jackson, selena, and the pope were there…article is here at http://jesuspenpals.com/heaven-hell/79-famous-people-in-hell-pope-john-paul-michael-jackson-selena.html I dunno if i believe it but im not gonna judge anyone

  124. Anonymous said

    Religion killed an innocent young girl, named Anneliese Michael. If she had had medical treatment she wouldn’t have had to suffer such a painful death. But priests insisted she were to have an exorcism. da da daaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

  125. Roncoat said

    Satan is the most religious being on the planet, he has created many false religions to divert man from the one true faith.

  126. Tina Jensen said

    I know that Michaels in heaven,I watched a utube of Michael and heard with my own ears that he believes in God and he called Jesus God,he said Jesus is God and that he will never stop helping and loving people the way that Jesus wants us too.If Michael wasnt christian he wouldnt talk like this,i think its very sad and its hurtful that other christians are judging him,i agree that good works but only a relationship with Jesus gets you into heaven,but what i see is Michael always thanking God and saying humbly that his talent dont come from himself but is a gift from heaven from God.In his interview with the rabbi he told the Rabbi that he in fact has a relationship with Jesus back in 2002,so he long before 2009 already knew Jesus as hes saviour.His music is not satanic and in fact many chinese people starting wanted to read the bible after his concerts,so how can this be a satanic spirit ?answer its not,Michael ?Jackson to me was the second most loviest person to ever lived after Jesus,the media heavily distorted him.He did not abuse children as the accusation said but was an unismous vote that he was innocent at his trial.Michael read the bible daily and prayed daily ,when he was on his trial he prayed as early as 4 am in the morning,and as a christian and Michael Jackson fan too i feel spiritually uplifted when i listen to his music and if anything Michaels made my relationship to Jesus stronger not weakre.This rumour of Michael being in hell is a lie from the pits of hell and this angelica vision is a lie from hell,Michaels in heaven and i look forward to give him a big hug.

  127. Tina Jensen said

    I find it very hurtful when the media has distorted a big concept of Michael,Michael has been made a scapegoat by many people but the truth is he was a christian innocent man,now in the arms of Jesus,i wish the idiotic pastor would stop being so judgemental,he sounds like the same sort of pastor i had at a pentecostal church once very judgemental and let us remember the story of the woman in adultery that you cant throw the ffirst stone unless your without sin also,im not saying Michael never made mistakes as he too was human like the rest of us who made mistakes but this poor guy has real feelings and i think its wrong especailly of christian condeming him,i say shame on all those who condemn him to hell,hes one of Gods children too you know and remember dont take the speak out of yoyur brothers eyes when you have a plank in your own because if you do your end in hell yourself not Michael.But i dont believe in a everlasting torment either,Gods would not let his children suffer,we wouldnt do that to our own kids so why would a prefect being do that,of course he wouldnt,those who reject God stay in the grave hell in hebrew is called the grave,but all who loves him at death like Michael Jackson go to be in Jesus arms everlasting safe and sound

  128. KV said

    Bill Keller is such an ASSHOLE!!

  129. Doris Gorgo said

    Mr. Keller, you are a very mentally ill person indeed. You definitely are not a christian in my opinion. You know absolutely nothing about Michael. You talk about satanic music? I have no idea what you are talking about. Which songs worship satan? Just because you might dislike Mr. Jackson for whatever reasons,(that is your preogative) you, as a christian, should not be spreading lies. Shame on you! BTW, Michael is ABSOLUTELY in heaven. He was an angel sent here to bring the world together in peace.

  130. Khadijah said

    Salam. I am a Muslim and i know that as Muslims and Christians we believe that judgement lies solely in the hands of Allah. So what i would have to say on this matter is that even if we think the story is true or false, let us take out what goes in line with the teachings of our religion and discard that which does not. As to one being in hell or heaven, i believe it is best we leave that to Allah, for He truly knows who is where and who isnt. Salam.

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  132. mokgatle said

    you guyz, you talk too much about things that you do not know. did you accepted Jesus christ as your personal and saviour?

    you who likethemusic he sang will land in hell without knowing. music has got alot impact in humans life. you guyz, you must give your life to Jesus. you are demon possesed am telling you. leave MJ songs and look to God.more talking wont help you anyway, the guy is dead, dead, dead. you are next!

  133. john said

    big deal…..all this long list of comments about a dead gay guy will not bring his fake white ass to life…it doest matter if he is in hell or heaven,only God is the judge of that
    in fact may i be bold to say ‘good riddance’why dont you all get a life and stop dwelling at the past

    ps…surely not a mj fan

  134. @Mokgatle Please enlighten me. The fact that the allegations of Micheal Jackson cannot really be proven. (I will not believe anything the media says about anyone without cold hard evidence like a video showing the acts he allegedly performed.)

    This is what I do know Jesus said in the scripture.

    “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[a] 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] There is no commandment greater than these.” Mark 12:30-31 (NIV)

    I was taught that this is the rock and this is the way a good christian should live our lives. This verse trumps any that false prophets will say. Especially when those same false prophets saying they speak for god, when they talk about Christianity being at war with another religion. In fact Jesus condemned war with those two verses. If you do not follow those two of the most greatest commandments, then maybe you should change the church you go to. Or the preacher you listen to. Anyone who says anything that goes against this is blaspheming against God. As far as theology goes this is fact, and if you have faith in Jesus Christ as the messiah, and your only way to heaven then you have to follow at least those two commandments.

    Now let’s look at the song Black or White. That song is about equality for every human being, no matter the color of skin. He has written other songs that actually are in line with what should be the core belief of Christianity.

    James 2:17 one of the most misinterpreted verses in the bible in my opinion states “In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.” (NIV)

    What that means is saying you believe is not enough, you must show GOD you believe in his message delivered through Jesus Christ. Which means every good thing you do, must be because GOD commanded it, and proclaiming to everyone I just did this good thing kind of ruins that whole showing GOD you did it because you love him, and you believe in his message. A Christians first response to someone asking for help should be to help, and for you not to say a word about it to anyone. It is not for other people to judge you, but GOD.

    So really saying someone is going to hell for listening to music, that mainly has a similar message to how GOD wants us to live our lives. That’s just silly. The fact is we don’t truly know if Micheal Jackson went to hell or not, and we really shouldn’t give a shit either way. It is not our place to say if someone is going to hell or not, it is GOD’s place to pass judgement not man’s and certainly not a false prophet that has lost his way and claims that a different religion is against GOD, therefore you should take up arms against it. I don’t know about your bible, but mine talks more about forgiveness and someone forgiving other people than it talks about fire and brimstone. My bible talks more about how GOD wants me to live my life, not that it is my job to fight GOD’s creation. GOD doesn’t want us to fight, GOD doesn’t want us to be judgemental, GOD’S WILL is for us to coexist and love one another as we love ourselves. I know THAT is GOD’S WILL because quite honestly, that was the overall message of Jesus Christ. Anyone who tells you different is a false prophet, an agent of Satan and should be ignored.

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  137. Anonymous said

    this one goes to Hors Service, Eve ate the apple first.

  138. Anonymous said

    to the person who say that us mjfans will go to hell where Michael is,your no christian but a sick judgemental idiot,Michaels in heaven with Jesus and noone can say different

  139. Araya Entahabu said

    came to Jesus he is the only one can save you from hell.heaven & hell so real choose now where do you want to go?please brother came to Jesus & receive him like savior in your heart.sing for world is bad thing like worship Idol.so came to Jesus & follow him & serve him he is the only one salvation.
    A man without Jesus Christ is like bird without wings.my brothers & sisters please this is your time came to Jesus & follow his word & read holy bibles.

  140. Araya Entahabu said

    I wander why many peoples want to follow wrong ways/famous peoples.value for your life this is your end & that is Jesus Christ.

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  142. Peter Saviour said

    Its a real pity that Michael Jackson is in hell.

    The demons that possesed Michael fooled him into believing that there is no greater torment than the ones he has gone through on earth. The moment he died Michael was woken up to a horrible, putrefying smell and he thought his house was on fire. Looking all around him, he started calling out, “hello? anybody hear me? I seem to be stuck in a pit! My house has collapsed around me!”

    This was a genuine cry from him of course. Michael Jackson didn’t realise that his words were ‘dead accurate’…that his BODY, his main house on earth, had indeed collapsed…

    Two demons then came to Michael and grabbed him by the hands saying “this way! Satan is expecting you!” Michael exclaimed, “what?! What do you mean, Satan what? Who are you! Oh gosh no…!”

    The demons ushered Michael into an inferno and he was powerless to stop them. They threw him in…and the devils are repeating this every second you read this.

    Michael Jackson had trouble getting to sleep, and thats well documented. Quite a lot of Michael Jackson fans left on earth have this same problem.

    If you are a Michael Jackson fan and you have trouble sleeping, then you are under strong, dangerous demonic influence if you also depend on drugs to sleep and get on a high with his music. (ie Michael Jackson’s)

    You need to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour right this minute! Say,

    “Lord Jesus, I believe you are the Son of God. I believe you died for my sins so that I will not perish. Lord Jesus, come into my heart, and be my Saviour from now to all eternity, and write my name in the Book of Life, and make me your child forever. Amen.”

    If you prayed that prayer with all your heart, you now belong to Jesus Christ! You do not have to go to hell to see anything there. Dont be fooled. Start reading the Bible, and find a good Bible believing church and start developing your relationship with Jesus Christ, and see you in heaven! Most importantly, spread this message to other people so that they also will not perish.

  143. Peter Saviour said

    Its a real pity that Michael Jackson is in hell.

    The demons that possesed Michael fooled him into believing that there is no greater torment than the ones he has gone through on earth. The moment he died Michael was woken up to a horrible, putrefying smell and he thought his house was on fire. Looking all around him, he started calling out, “hello? anybody hear me? I seem to be stuck in a pit! My house has collapsed around me!”

    This was a genuine cry from him of course. Michael Jackson didn’t realise that his words were ‘dead accurate’…that his BODY, his main house on earth, had indeed collapsed…

    Two demons then came to Michael and grabbed him by the hands saying “this way! Satan is expecting you!” Michael exclaimed, “what?! What do you mean, Satan what? Who are you! Oh gosh no…!”

    The demons ushered Michael into an inferno and he was powerless to stop them. They threw him in…and the devils are repeating this every second you read this.

    Michael Jackson had trouble getting to sleep, and thats well documented. Quite a lot of Michael Jackson fans left on earth have this same problem.

    If you are a Michael Jackson fan and you have trouble sleeping, then you are under strong, dangerous demonic influence if you also depend on drugs to sleep and get on a high with his music. (ie Michael Jackson’s)

    You need to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour right this minute! Say,

    “Lord Jesus, I believe you are the Son of God. I believe you died for my sins so that I will not perish. Lord Jesus, come into my heart, and be my Saviour from now to all eternity, and write my name in the Book of Life, and make me your child forever. Amen.”

    If you prayed that prayer with all your heart, you now belong to Jesus Christ! You do not have to go to hell to see anything there. Dont be fooled. Start reading the Bible, and find a good Bible believing church and start developing your relationship with Jesus Christ, and see you in heaven! Most importantly, spread this message to other people so that they also will not perish.

  144. Anonymous said

    Olive you michael

  145. Magdala said

    LOVE you MICHAEL JACKSON!!!!!!! Who say that ur songs are satanic :S:S:S:S please be aware of this judgement b4 saying these things about him! Walaw!
    and please do read his song lyrics at least like in They don’t care about us:

    “Tell me what has become of my life
    I have a wife and two children who love me
    I am the victim of police brutality, now
    I’m tired of bein’ the victim of hate
    You’re rapin’ me off my pride
    Oh, for God’s sake
    I look to heaven to fulfill its prophecy…
    Set me free”
    LOVE U MJ
    MJ FAN

  146. U are insane for saying that,ISLAM is d key 2 evrythn.

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  148. jobson said

    I don’t want to judge anyone because I don’t deserve to … but the probability of Michael Jackson being in heaven is almost nil. Many people may find it difficult to ‘digest’ but that’s it. Lots of his fans,desperately make up points to show that he is not in hell. I ,too,was one of his fans and I could never believe that he’s in hell. I used to argue with and hate anyone who said Michael is in hell. I couldn’t think of a heaven without him. I was heavily addicted to his songs.
    But,unfortunately, Michael has landed up in hell. Many argue that he did lot of charity and other benevolent things,so he is resting in heaven. But they must understand that heaven is not so cheap so that it can be bought with money. If it was so then all the billionaires and millionaires are definitely assured of a place in heaven.
    Michael was also a satanist. You can see for yourselves the lyrics of his songs like ‘thriller’, ‘blame it on the boogie’, ‘we are the world’,’earthsong’ etc. In the last two songs mentioned here , you can see that Michael blasphemes against Lord Jesus Christ.
    Michael might’ve had many positive qualities in life, but the gates of heaven are not going to be opened on account of those alone because one has to acquire the beautiful and precious qualities that are seen in Lord Jesus and which can only be acquired through Lord Jesus.
    Michael renounced the glories of the eternal world, for he counted the present glories this transient world higher. He wasted his precious life.
    I am really saddened that Michael won’t be there to enjoy the glorious presence of the Lord and His Saints but there is nothing that can be done to deliver him form the judgment that has been set for all sinners.
    Let us therefore renounce sin and satan and prepare ourselves for the coming glorious kingdom.
    May God Bless…..

  149. Sunday said

    He refuse the savior jesus christ tinking he can buy his way to heaven,but i bet u this is a very big sign of warning to those who still don’t believe in jesus by faith and the rest member of his cult!!?.!

  150. anonymous said

    I’ve been reading the comments that everyone had posted. Michael Jackson’s death was a tragedy and like everyone else, I was concerned about where his soul was going…if he accepted Jesus Christ as his personal savior when he took his last breath then he would be in Heaven but if he rejected Jesus then sadly he’s in Hell. Whether people wanna believe it or not but Hell is real and it exists, In fact Jesus spoke more about it then Heaven. Instead of us sitting up here arguing and assuming where Michael went, we need to look at ourselves making sure our souls is right with God and tell our unsaved love ones about Jesus while there is still time left. Michael is dead and gone and we can’t bring him back, only God and Michael know where he went. If he went to Hell there’s nothing we can do about it but look to Jesus as our Lord and Savior to ask for forgiveness and do what the bible says to do “Go into the world and preach the gospel to every creature”. I’m not trying to step on nobody’s toes or anything like that but its the truth and the truth hurts…so instead of wondering where a person soul went, get your own house in order because Jesus is coming soon!!! God bless you all!!!

  151. Truth said

    I believe very strongly that michael jackson is in hell. Michael rejected the free gift of salvation in Jesus christ. I advise Jermaine Jackson to abandon Islam and accept Jesus christ as lord and personal if he does not want to join michael jackson in hell when he dies. Jesus christ is the only way to heaven. Islam is a false religion that leads people to hell fire. There is no salvation in Islam. Jesus is the saviour of the world.

  152. Truth said

    Heaven is real. Hell is also real. All muslims will go to hell. Prophet muhammad is in hell. All christians who are not living a holy life will go to hell. Only genuinely born again christians who live a holy life and obey God’s commandments will go to heaven. Jesus is the true way to heaven. Islam, buddha, hindu, jehovah witnesses, mormons and other false religions will go to hell. Islam cannot save your soul from hell. Jesus christ is the saviour of your soul.

  153. Bernard said

    Thank you,with your guiding knowledge,l had back before been a consistent fan of michael jackson,it’s health and a crucialy valueable fruit of words to my spirit.l now understand the connection which l should,strengthen.thank you.but can l ask,is it a moral behavior to masturbate?hopeful,bernard

  154. Roncoat said

    Lust is a sin, and to masturbate is to fuel your lust.

    2Timothy:2:22: Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.

    James:4:7: Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

    I’m not saying that you will never lust. What I am saying is that we should exercise righteousness, and we all know that exercise isn’t always easy.

  155. reds1991 said

    OK SOME OF YOU PEOPLE ARE JUST NUTS! ESPECIALLY YOU JOBSON. I THINK YOU ARE THE DEVIL IN DISGUISE. WHERE IN THE WORLD DO YOU GET MJ’S SONGS LIKE HEAL THE WORLD AND EARTH SONG BEING SATANIC? AS FOR BLAME IT ON THE BOOGIE AND THRILLER…HE DID NOT EVEN WRITE THOSE SONGS…HE THOUGHT THEY WERE FUN SONGS. HE WOULD NOT DO CERTAIN PROJECTS BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT OK WITH HIS CHURCH BELIEFS. I MEAN HE GOT A LOT OF CRAP FOR THRILLER FROM THE JAHOVAS WINTESSES …WHICH HE WAS A MEMBER OF FOR YEARS UNTIL THEY BLOCKED HIS CREATIVE EXPRESSION. IT WAS RIGHT AFTER HE DID SMOOTH CRIMINAL WHICH WAS ABOUT A GUY (MJ) PROTECTING A CHILD FROM A CRIMINAL. WATCH THE MOONWALKER VIDEO! THE FACT HE WAS SHOOTING A MACHINE GUN AT THE END OF THE VIDEO …THE CHURCH ASKED HIM TO CHOOSE. BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT HE DID NOT KEEP GOD AND JESUS IN HIS LIFE. MANY INTERVIEWS AFTER THAT HE SPOKE ABOUT HOW HE TRIES TO FOLLOW JESUS’S EXAMPLE AND SEEING GOD IN THHE FACES OF CHILDREN. HE ALSO TALEKD ABOUT READING THE BIBLE AND GETTING HIS INSPIRATIONS FROM GOD. GOD AND JESUS WERE VERY MUCH IN HIS LIFE. JUST BECAUSE HE DID NOT ACT LIKE A FANATICAL NUT JOB ABOUT IT DOES NOT MAKE HIM OR ANYONE ELSE A SATAN WORSHIPER. I JUST CANNOT BELIEVE THAT YOU THINK THIS MAN WAS NOT A GOOD HUMAN BEING WHO LOVED GOD AND JESUS! HIS PROBLEM WAS HE HAD A LOT OF EVIL PEOPLE AROUND HIM TRYING TO BRING HIM DOWN. HE COULD ONLY FIGHT OFF SO MUCH EVIL. HE WAS ALSO VERY HUMAN. MAY I REMIND YOU …LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO JESUS. HOW THEY TREATED HIM. I BLEIVE THAT THERE WERE MANY PEOPLE THAT WERE DOING THE SAME TO MJ! I HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF GOOD AND EVIL …INCAN TELL BY LOOKING AT SOMEONE AND WATCHING THEM SPEAK AND THIER ACTIONS OF THEY ARE EVIL. AND HE WAS NOT EVIL. GET A LIFE AND GET REAL. YOU PEOPLE ARE DELUSIONAL. AND THE FACT THAT THIS GIRL ALSO SAW SELENA IN HELL. WHAT A JOKE!

  156. Roncoat said

    Luke:16:13: No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

    Michael Jackson loveds the pleasures and the riches of this life more than God and the Salvation of Jesus Christ, his works and the fruit of them is the evidence for this claim.

  157. Its true that he had a covenant with the devil i believe it ,and he did this before he could become a super star ,i strongly believe it,JUST LOOK AT THIS his name is all over the yes because if he really loved wealth,riches and above all the world than the maker who brought him onto the earth,so i believe it ,so i would advice every one to stay away from his songs because this same songs that he sang on earth will definitely send any one to his place,i mean where he is now that is hell.So for me i will just advice every one to give his / her life to JESUS CHRIST THE SON GOD before time is due.Because Jesus Christ is the only way,truth and the light ,no one will come to the father except through him.And for my last words i would like to advise his whole family to give their lives to GOD,his children ,his father,mother and also his friends who are also in the same covenant with the devil.THANK YOU.

  158. SCOTTA. said

    amen roncoat and all other CHRISTIANS! people need to wake up accept CHRIST into their hearts before its too late. get saved today because you could die tonight!!! HELL IS REAL AND FOREVER!! you burn alive 24/7 forever. think it hurts to burn your finger just imagine your whole body on fire 24/7 with no relief. the bible says there is no rest for the wicked.

  159. and why should I believe what the Bible says, or even more what YOU say the Bible says? It is a collection of Bronze Age myths borrowed from earlier surrounding cultures and retold by and for an ancient near eastern society of patriarchal goat herders.. It contradicts itself many places and also contradicts observable reality when it is interpreted literally. I’m sorry, but that is not enough to persuade me to believe it as absolute truth to live my life by. I wonder how ANYONE can unless they have been brainwashed since birth and are totally ignorant of history and science. I do believe the Bible has eternal truths in it that may be of some good, but these truths are not exclusive to Christianity or Judaism but can be found in spiritual teachings of all cultures and times, only expressed different ways for the different cultures.

  160. All of the religions of the world was authored by the Great Spirit. A majority of the religions of the world teach about loving other human beings, in a majority of the world’s religions killing another person is a chief “sin”. The message of the Torah, Talmud, and The New Testament is not in the words, but in the ideas. If you believe in Jesus, then you know he taught about forgiving everyone, loving everyone. The real question is, Why is the message of God that in a majority of all religions teach that we need to coexist, and spread love. Why is this message distorted by man? For power.

    Buddhism, Hinduism, some Islamic sects, the Core beliefs of Christianity, the shamanistic practices of our ancestors. All of that comes from the Great Spirit, so does the many warnings in many religions and mythology that talks about a war in the heavens. We love the ones we are related to, we as human beings are apart of a singular racial family. we are technically all related to each other. We come from the same place regardless of skin color, or language, or even belief. It doesn’t matter which religion you follow all of them have a kind of end of the world story. All those stories surprisingly are almost the same, with the same ending. Everything starts again, it starts new. Love every human being with all your heart and soul. (This doesn’t mean to trust everyone, but love them and forgive them for they know not what they do.)That is the message I get from these religions. That is the singular truth from God in a majority of the religions. Love every human being with all your heart and soul. Treat them as if they are family, especially enemies. That is the word, that is the message. Remember that in the coming days.

    I believe we as a race were created, I believe that to the eyes of a being that can create the universe and lives outside of time and space as we know it. I believe that creation wasn’t a being just put his finger in the ground and oops there’s man. I believe Creation is an ongoing process. I believe the proof that we were created exists in how different species on this Earth evolved to be able to live in a much colder environment, than the environment our Earth had 13 billion years ago. Evolution only proves God exists in my eyes. Because to me it is just a tool of Creation, it was how we were created. Scientists are looking for a mammalian missing link, when the missing link I believe would be a bipedal reptilian being. The first mammal was found during the time of the dinosaurs. It was believed to be an amphibious dinosaur, that didn’t lay eggs but birthed live dinosaurs. That would be the common ancestor to all mammalian life on Earth. The missing link would be the reptilian branch of that evolution cycle. Evolution is a tool of God, even the big bang theory has it’s origins in Judiasm. “GOD SPOKE THE UNIVERSE INTO EXISTENCE.” The big bang. If I saw what moses saw knowing what I know now, I believe I could more accurately explain what happened in a way man would never be able to twist the message again. But the message has already been spoken, and it already has been twisted. We live in a planet of 13 billion years of history. I believe in God, because no member of my unit lost their life. A few got injured, but no one died. If God doesn’t exist then how come no bullets hit the trucks. Sure I channeled my energy into the request for protection, but I know I am not powerful enough to be able to shield a team of 200+ men and women from the distances they were from me. In my eyes only one being could provide as much protection as I know we had. If God doesn’t exist then I am a very lucky person. I should have died multiple times by now, a bullet went past my ear as I reacted to a soft whisper I thought I heard. If I didn’t turn my head, it would be a canoe right now. I have seen too many miracles in my life to deny that God exists.

    It is not some book that tells me this, it is from what I know and feel from past experiences in my life. I have always had a creationist kind of view. Just not the same view as a secular creationist, so don’t put us all of us that believe in creation in the same boat.

  161. Folashade said

    No one can judge who is going to heaven or hell, even the pastor might not go to heaven. You can be working as a righteous man and change to the ways of hell in your last minutes and you can wine and dine with the devil and change to ways of heaven in your last minutes

  162. J.h. said

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  166. Mark Gibbs said

    Michael Jackson was not a Christian you just like him because he made good music.

  167. Only God Can Decide said

    I was an athiest as a teenager. I didn’t see any proof of God. I saw how religions tend to cause people to kill one another… but eventually It was because of Michael Jackson’s words about God and Jesus that my heart opened to Jesus. God brought Michael Jackson’s music into my life so that I would find him. I believe that. I don’t know what Michael Jackson’s last hours were like, I don’t know if he committed any unforgivable sin that no amount of repentance could save him for…I know Michael was probably the type to pray often, and probably before bed every night. I know it’s been said the reason he couldn’t sleep was because God was talking to him. that could have been a delusion, but even if it was, if you a true Christian was having delusions that God was talking to you, wouldn’t you listen? I don’t think Michael made very many moves in his life without thinking for a long time about if it was what God wanted. Half the reason people believed the molestation garbage about him, is because they didn’t think he was having sex with women. which would lead me to believe that possibly he didn’t believe in sex before marriage.. a christain belief…if he’d been sleeping around hollywood with all the it girls of the time they wouldn’t have been able to pin that stuff on him. but no, he wasn’t. He was being a good christian, so yeah…they thought wow he must be gay or hey he must be nonsexual, or hey maybe hes into little boys…the devil was in that kind of speculation….BTW…Blame It on The Boogie lyrics seem to be warning the listener about the devil in the clubs and discos of the time. how many have gone into a club and could feel the devil getting to them? just because the devil might have had MJ for a moment doesn’t mean the devil had him for life.

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