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Pope move ignites Holocaust row

Posted by tothewire on January 25, 2009

The Vatican seeks to separate the bishops' status from their views

The Vatican seeks to separate the bishops' status from their views

The Pope has lifted the excommunication from the Roman Catholic Church of four bishops appointed by a breakaway archbishop more than 20 years ago.




One of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre’s appointees, Briton Richard Williamson, outraged Jews by saying the Nazi gas chambers did not exist.

Two of the other three appointees are French while the fourth is Argentinean. 

Israel’s envoy to the Vatican said the papal decision would “cast a shadow on relations with Jews”.

“We have no intention of interfering in the internal workings of the Catholic Church, however, the eagerness to bring a Holocaust denier back into the Church will cast a shadow on relations between Jews and the Catholic Church,” Mordechai Lewy told Reuters news agency.

Lefebvre, who died in 1991, rebelled against liberal reforms in the Church, such as the end of the Latin Mass.

He opposed replacing the traditional Mass with services in national languages.

The Vatican said the excommunications had been lifted after the bishops affirmed their willingness to accept Church teachings and papal authority.

‘No gas chambers’

Relations between the Vatican and representatives of the Jewish faith have been strained throughout much of the Church’s recent history; Jewish groups have accused Pope Pius of turning a blind eye to the fate of the Jews in World War II.

The latest move by Pope Benedict is likely to add to those strains.

Bishop Richard Williamson recently told Swedish TV: “I believe there were no gas chambers. I think that two to three hundred thousand Jews perished in Nazi concentration camps but none of them by gas chambers.”

The Vatican has distanced itself from those remarks.

But its spokesman, Rev Federico Lombardi, still stood by the decision to rehabilitate Bishop Williamson and the others.

“This act regards the lifting of the excommunications, period,” he told reporters.

“It has nothing to do with the personal opinions of a person, which are open to criticism, but are not pertinent to this decree.”

Interview with Bishop Williamson:

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10 Responses to “Pope move ignites Holocaust row”

  1. Lawman2 said

    wow what a slap in the face to the jews!you still claim your pope is a man touched by your god?isn’t your god and the one the jews worship the one in the same?the jews waiting on a messiah’s first appearance and christians on his second?lol


  2. Lawman2 said

    maybe we should call your pope hitler’s pope?


  3. tothewire said

    You posted this under my name Lawman.


  4. Lawman2 said

    just posting the news.i post things under your name all the time.why does my posting just another news headline under your name bother you?

    OH maybe because it is something to do with your pope the little mini god of the catholic faith!


  5. tothewire said

    Pope Benedict didn’t “used to be a Nazi.” In fact, as the New York Times itself reported after the Pope’s election in 2005, Pope Benedict’s father was anti-Nazi, and “Joseph Ratzinger [the Pope’s birth name] huddled with his father and older brother around a radio and listened to Allied radio broadcasts,” an act that if they were caught doing, they would have been sent to a concentration camp themselves.



  6. Lawman2 said

    here i copied and pasted this from msnbc

    As John Paul II’s right hand man, in charge of enforcing the conservative papal policy, Cardinal Ratzinger earned an unfortunate nickname from his more progressive peers: the “Panzer Cardinal”. Like the tank. Pope Benedict XVI, now 78, had his own brush with warfare as a young boy growing up in Nazi Germany.

    At age, 14 membership in Germany’s “Hitler Youth” became mandatory. So Joseph Ratzinger enrolled
    He managed to get out early so he could study for the priesthood.
    Two years later, when he was 16, Ratzinger was drafted again by the German Army.
    Ratzinger worked as a helper in an anti-aircraft briagde.
    In 1945, he was put through basic training and stationed near his hometown in Bavaria.
    When Allied forces advanced, he deserted the German army — risking death by that act alone.
    After he escaped, Ratzinger was captured by American soldiers and spent the remainder of the war in a POW camp.


  7. Lawman2 said

    he was part of hitlers youth campaign


  8. Lawman2 said

    what say ye now?


  9. tothewire said

    You know for a fact all of these allegations have been investigated thoroughly and proven he is innocent of any kind of wrong doing. You’re just trying to keep the site lively, and you need to find a different post to do so. You are slandering our POPE. It may catch the eye of a new reader or two, but it is wrong.


  10. tothewire said

    Bishop Williamson isn’t able to account for all those missing Jews though is he? Williamson’s interview is a slap in the face to the Jews, I do agree with that.


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