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Something for the Atheists

Posted by dorian on May 19, 2009


~ this is an online ad from Beyond Belief Media Company for the documentary ‘The God Who Wasn’t There’.  it’s “God’s people” versus “radicals, perverts, liberals, leftists and communists”.  see trailer in bottom of ad. ~

Bowling for Columbine did it to the gun culture.

Super Size Me did it to fast food.

Now The God Who Wasn’t There does it to religion.

The movie that has been astounding audiences in theaters around the world is now available on a high-quality, feature-packed DVD. Own the taboo-shattering documentary that Newsweek says “irreverently lays out the case that Jesus Christ never existed.”

In this critically acclaimed film, you will discover:

The early founders of Christianity seem wholly unaware of the idea of a human Jesus

The Jesus of the Gospels bears a striking resemblance to other ancient heroes and the figureheads of pagan savior cults

Contemporary Christians are largely ignorant of the origins of their religion

Fundamentalism is as strong today as it ever has been, with an alarming 44% of Americans believing that Jesus will return to earth in their lifetimes
From exposing the hidden history of Christianity to lampooning the bloody excesses of Mel Gibson’s The Passion of the Christ (which caused Gibson to attempt legal action against the documentary), The God Who Wasn’t There pulls no punches.

Directed by award-winning filmmaker (and former Christian) Brian Flemming, The God Who Wasn’t There includes stimulating interviews with:

Sam Harris, author of The End of Faith and Letter to a Christian Nation

Robert M. Price, Jesus Seminar fellow and author of The Incredible Shrinking Son of Man

Alan Dundes, Professor of Folklore at the University of California at Berkeley

Richard Carrier, historian and author of Sense and Goodness Without God

Barbara & David P. Mikkelson, authors of the Urban Legends Reference Pages at snopes.com

And many others
Dazzling motion graphics and a driving soundtrack propel this uncompromising film that the Los Angeles Times calls “provocative – to put it mildly.”

Special Features

The special features on this DVD are both generous and carefully selected. As DVD Talk puts it: “This DVD delivers the film in a quality presentation, with extras that quadruple the amount of content in a positive way with no filler.”

The superb commentary tracks on this DVD are not the usual “making of” chat but instead consist of original material that director Brian Flemming crafted to deepen the experience of The God Who Wasn’t There. The two separate tracks are:

“The Atheists.” This lively track features evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins (The God Delusion). Topics discussed by this towering atheist figure range from the horrors committed in the name of God to the power of science to combat “religion and all other forms of superstition.” Relevant audio from other interviewees is also woven into this timely and candid examination of irrational beliefs.

“The Scholar.” This track delves deep into the Jesus Myth hypothesis with pioneering scholar Earl Doherty (The Jesus Puzzle). If you are intrigued by the possibility that Jesus Christ did not exist at all, you will find this audio track fascinating. Doherty has been studying for decades the evidence that mainstream academics are only beginning to discover. Prepare to be astounded.
The DVD also includes more than one hour of additional interviews on video. These illuminating extended clips did not make it into the fast-paced main feature, but many viewers nonetheless highlight them as a favorite part of the DVD. Topics include:

The Rapture. Soft-spoken Rapture-believer Scott Butcher explains why he is certain that everything in the Book of Revelation is about to come true. (However, he is unable to explain where he got the idea that all airlines have a rule that at least one pilot in the cockpit must be a non-Christian, lest both pilots be Raptured at once while the plane is in flight.)

Legend. Barbara and David P. Mikkelson, the creators of Snopes.com, discuss the creepy lessons behind a certain urban legend popular among Christians.

What God wants. Philosopher Richard Carrier performs a thought experiment in which he asks, if there is a God, what does he want? The results are both hilarious and difficult to dispute.

Who needs God to be good? Author Sam Harris disputes the notion that morality has any relationship to dogma.

And many more.
We’ll let DVD Talk describe one more special feature on this packed DVD: “There’s an excellent slide show titled ‘Explore the Myth,’ which looks at the stories about Jesus and traces them throughout time, examining their effect right up through today’s dangerous extremist conservatism, which has left America fractured. Viewing the slide show on DVD-ROM [any Windows or Mac computer with a DVD drive] will open Web sites related to the material.”

And there’s even more compelling material for you to discover on your own…

Watch the trailer:


funnies !



46 Responses to “Something for the Atheists”

  1. Wyndee said

    ‘today’s dangerous extremist conservatism, which has left America fractured.’
    thats funny.


  2. dorian9 said

    that’s exaggerating things a bit, isn’t it?


  3. Oh come on: that is doubtless true, but when has America not been fractured?


  4. Enkill_Eridos said

    it is true look at this blog look at republicans vs. democrats and the heated debates that happened here. Look at the “godless” souls that poke and prod at bk’s devotional. Even though the regulars are the ones commenting other people are viewing and laughing at us. (I am able to see IP’s of site visitors and the amount of data is overwhelming but there are different ips that just read different blog things so that’s cool. But still we are a nation fractured when it comes to religion and this is good. I mean in the past especially in mid to late nineties Christian Fundamentalism has turned violent. (Bombings of multiple sperm donation clinics and abortion clinics for those old enough to have had to write a current events paper during that time. I remember in late (8th grade) middle school to early high school of having to write a current events paper and of course the rebel rouser that I am, and I always have been this way I wrote my papers on the “sensitive topics”. I remember writing one on abortion clinic and sperm clinic fire bombings, The baptist conventions boycott of Disney world because of “Gay Day.” I was still a church goer holy roller christian at this time too. (The paper was not in favor of the baptist conventions views but in favor of homosexual and lesbian rights. I would like to add I am heterosexual I am just comfortable with my sexuality. When my pastor found out there was a lecture on that still didn’t change my mind.) And these were pre-high school papers, caused controversy and I got in trouble. It was not an appropriate thing for a child my age to right about and the teachers was shocked on how well I grasped the subject and my knowledge on the subject. I would also like to add internet and computers were not affordable and a part of out daily lives at this time. I got all my research sources from news papers and credible news sources of the time. but I have been ranting.

    Now to post one comment on something that bears a strikingly huge resemblance to the Jesus resurrection myth. The most notable myth is how Horus became Horus-ra. Osiris the husband of the everlasting virgin Isis was killed by his brother Set (Lord of the Underworld. This is also a possible Cain and Able origin as well.) Isis collected Osirus’ seed and implanted it into her body. Thus according to the myth, in nine months Isis did what is called a virginal birth. Does anyone see any similarities yet? Isis named her son Horus. Horus lived for 36 years then he decended unto the underworld where he avenged his father. (How he went to the underworld is really unclear and there are alot of interpretations of the hieroglyphics that tell the story but one thing is clear he died physically and in a horrible manner.) Horus was in the underworld for three days and nights. On the morning of the fourth day he emerged from the underworld reborn he ascended into the heavens and took up Ra’s mantle, becoming Horus-Ra. Horus-Ra became the chief god of the Egyptian culture. The Egyptians believed that the gods got tired of godhood and retired to higher planes of existence. I can understand it really listening to all those whiny followers prayers asking for selfish things. Did anyone see any similarities between a story that was told over five thousand give or take a few thousand years earlier and the story depicted in the bible? This all comes to no surprise seeing that Constantine even after the council of Nicea was openly a worshiper of Isis. Constantine and his council of Nicea organized the christian religion as we know it today. Some things to think about.


  5. kay~ms said

    “Bowling for Columbine did it to the gun culture.
    Super Size Me did it to fast food.
    Now The God Who Wasn’t There does it to religion.”

    Flemming wishes he were in the same league as these other movies… keep dreaming…

    From the clips I’ve seen, this movie produces extremely weak arguments, exaggerations, and misleading “facts” some of which are explained in the videos below…

    Anti Biblical propaganda sells… Flemming figured this out… and unfortunately it will sell more and more as time goes on…

    “astounding audiences”
    “high-quality, feature-packed DVD”
    “taboo-shattering documentary”
    “critically acclaimed film,”
    “Dazzling motion graphics and a driving soundtrack propel this uncompromising film ”

    Wow!! I’ve just got to run out right now and get a copy!!

    “The early founders of Christianity seem wholly unaware of the idea of a human Jesus”
    What?? Says who?? Certainly not according to the books of the New Testament written by many different men… those don’t count?? Not to mention all of the books written about Christ that weren’t canonized.

    “Fundamentalism is as strong today as it ever has been, with an alarming 44% of Americans believing that Jesus will return to earth in their lifetimes”

    Wow.. that REALLY IS alarming!!

    A review of Brian Flemmings’ The God That Wasn’t There.


  6. princessxxx said

    e_e – i’m sure not all of them are laughing at us! i imagine quite a large number are laughing with us.
    “Laughter is the best medicine” and in my opinion, works better than prayers.
    could you keep us posted on a regulary scheduled basis the number of readers. i would like to know that information, please.

    fractured americans? no doubt. betty, you are lucky to live on the other side of the world.
    (most of the crazies reside in florida) but at least we are getting some much needed rain.


  7. dorian9 said

    P – i’m sure plenty are laughing with us. as long as we can see the humor in most of these things we’ll be okay!

    authors, can you not access the stats? go to ‘my dashboards’ if you can, click on ‘tothewire’ and in the dashboard page you will see ‘blog stats’. record high views was 3rd week of february with 30,780. this week so far we have 3,559.

    thanks for posting the video review, kay. i wanted to find one to include in post but ran out of time.


  8. I watched this movie and there are some good arguments with historical proof but it didnt go as indepth as it should have. There was too much emphasis on one theme and most of the movie bashed on Passion of the Christ. But it still was not as big of a waste of time as Micheal Moore’s mockumentaries kakakkaka. but seriously if you do some research you can find out the exact carbon date of the original new testament. And if anyone can find the original gospels before the big huge edit the church did please let me know. The latin bible which is what the KJV was translated from has a lot of this editing. This is to enforce the churches views. Also there is evidence that the church has rewritten history before so who’s to say the Council of Nicea didnt start that trend. It had some interesting things in it that is not outlandish and is probably closer to the truth than any of Mr. Moore’s films ever has been. I do want to say this one thing. The gospels DO cover the destruction of the great temple of Jeruselem it was not in Mark but in Luke. When jesus died on the cross a great bolt of lightning crashed upon the temple and split it in two. That was not the actual verse it was just a paraphrasing but it is in the gospels. Both in NKJV and KJV. So I am going to do my own review in written form to tell what is inaccurate or what could be accurate. We will never have all the facts as long as the vatican stands so everything including the validity of the modern bible is speculation and cannot be proven.


  9. kay~ms said

    You’re welcome Dorian. Those videos are kind of in the “boring format”… listening to the guy talk can put you to sleep… but one of the things I really found interestng was the list of other “gods” and how they did not match up to the story of Jesus. I was under the false impression that it was true just because I had heard that and just ignorantly believed it. I’ve noticed lately that there are a lot of people out there who are purposely spreading these un truths, relying on the average Christian’s lack of knowledge.

    Case in point… Cameron who commented on “Was Jesus a real person?”…’

    He said: Here are the basic facts as I understand them:

    1. Not a single firsthand eyewitness account of Jesus exists.
    2. Not a single contemporary account of Jesus exists.

    I said:

    Cameron… how can you say…

    “1. Not a single firsthand eyewitness account of Jesus exists.”

    How do you conclude that this is a fact?? James, Peter & Jude; all 3 of these authors knew Jesus personally, and James was His brother. They identify themselves as the authors.

    Cameron said:


    He’s probably moved on to some other blog hoping to spread his mistruths there.


  10. kay~ms said

    I would love to see your review EE.. and I’ll try to read it with an open mind.

    P, I was thinking the same thing… most of the crazies do live here… but I’m beginning to like us more and more… inspite of that picture… that was creepy. You should work for Stephen King… and of course, also do the comedy circuit… you are definitely multi talented.


  11. Danilla said

    Даа… Достаточно спорно, поспорил бы с автором…


  12. dorian9 said

    well somebody really has to get a hold of those original documents if they’re still around (maybe the vatican archives)? and do all the carbon dating. but what good is verifying timelines if there is no actual dna? i suggest looking at the shroud of turin again. anyway, why care if atheists do not believe Jesus existed. isn’t your faith good enough? atheists wouldn’t care one way or another if scientific evidence of Jesus was produced. they are faithless by nature. or so they claim.


  13. We are we are we are: it is a complete red herring whether J.C. was ‘real’: it’s how naughty a boy he was that matters.


  14. dorian9 said

    nous sommes
    noi siamo

    we think
    we are

    we live
    and then we die

    as above, so below
    the question is
    where does everyone go

    22 seconds. it’s a record. lawman can you hear me?


  15. George38 said

    I believe that the God of Abraham created a habitat for mankind and inhabited it with mankind for companionship as stated in the Bible. Witnesses who brought this story through the ages had no reason to create a set of rules that they could not keep to control their neighbors. They would be recognized as frauds and run out of the country. Interestingly, the one who could be obedient to the rules was rewarded with a mock trial and a cruel death. Not a few people, if you believe witnesses, saw his death and his person after he had come out of the tomb. His existence on earth was recorded by first hand observers who were bound by the same rules; one of which when paraphrased is don’t lie. If they were believers, why would they lie about there experiences? There would certainly be no reward from God for that. The witnesses to the activities of Jesus, God’s Son, were human and they had no reason to honor someone who would violate even one of the rules that he proclaimed were essential for humans to have abundant life.
    Because our Creator knew His creation, He knew that rules for life were necessary. He also knew that mankind had the freedom to create their own god and He knew they should trust the true God. The rules, the ten commandments, were summed up in the Old Testament and the summary was repeated by Jesus in his statement of the greatest commandment. That summary was essentially, love the true God and love your neighbors as yourself. Where among all the humans you have known would you find a creator to rival this one. There will always be skeptics and power seekers who spoil the message, but I believe the witnesses and the actions of the true followers. They have weakness that you can pick on, but I believe you won’t find better humans on the earth.


  16. lkern said

    we are SO full of ourselves.


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