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The Obama Administration: Obama the Muslim?

Posted by dorian on February 16, 2011

In a Countdown exclusive investigation, guest host Lawrence O’Donnell asks, how secretively Muslim is President Barack Obama?

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pretty well done.



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I’ll take Easter in the U.S anytime. pass the peeps, please!

Posted by dorian on April 4, 2010

Filipino Catholics crucify themselves to mark Good Friday

Devout Catholics in the Philippines had themselves nailed to crosses while others whipped themselves until the blood flowed in a gruesome ritual to mark Good Friday.

By Ian MacKinnon in Hua Hin, Thailand
Published: 6:18PM BST 02 Apr 2010

Photo: Jay Directo/AFP/Getty Images

“this will hurt me more than it will hurt you”. i think not.

Devout catholics take part in a crucifixtion to mark Good Friday.

Devout catholics take part in a crucifixtion to mark Good Friday. Photo: Jay Directo/AFP/Getty Images

At least 23 people were crucified – one for the 24th time – in three villages north of Manila as the media recorded every moment from gantries erected around the crosses.

The Roman Catholic Church in the Philippines disapproves of the bloody spectacle that is a mark of the worshippers’ faith, but is powerless to stop the annual ritual. Read the rest of this entry »

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The Rage Is Not About Health Care

Posted by dorian on March 29, 2010

Frank Rich photo: Fred R. Conrad/The New York Times

The Rage Is Not About Health Care

The New York Times Op-Ed Columnist Published: March 27, 2010

THERE were times when last Sunday’s great G.O.P. health care implosion threatened to bring the thrill back to reality television. On ABC’s “This Week,” a frothing and filibustering Karl Rove all but lost it in a debate with the Obama strategist David Plouffe. A few hours later, the perennially copper-faced Republican leader John Boehner revved up his “Hell no, you can’t!” incantation in the House chamber — instant fodder for a new viral video remixing his rap with will.i.am’s “Yes, we can!” classic from the campaign. Boehner, having previously likened the health care bill to Armageddon, was now so apoplectic you had to wonder if he had just discovered one of its more obscure revenue-generating provisions, a tax on indoor tanning salons.

But the laughs evaporated soon enough. There’s nothing entertaining about watching goons hurl venomous slurs at congressmen like the civil rights hero John Lewis and the openly gay Barney Frank. And as the week dragged on, and reports of death threats and vandalism stretched from Arizona to Kansas to upstate New York, the F.B.I. and the local police had to get into the act to protect members of Congress and their families.

How curious that a mob fond of likening President Obama to Hitler knows so little about history that it doesn’t recognize its own small-scale mimicry of Kristallnacht. The weapon of choice for vigilante violence at Congressional offices has been a brick hurled through a window. So far.

No less curious is how disproportionate this red-hot anger is to its proximate cause. The historic Obama-Pelosi health care victory is a big deal, all right, so much so it doesn’t need Joe Biden’s adjective to hype it. But the bill does not erect a huge New Deal-Great Society-style government program. In lieu of a public option, it delivers 32 million newly insured Americans to private insurers. As no less a conservative authority than The Wall Street Journal editorial page observed last week, the bill’s prototype is the health care legislation Mitt Romney signed into law in Massachusetts. It contains what used to be considered Republican ideas. Read the rest of this entry »

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The Pope and those pesky sex scandals of the priestly kind

Posted by dorian on March 29, 2010

Pope will ‘not be intimidated by petty gossip’ over sex abuse scandals

Pope Benedict XVI began Holy Week on Sunday by suggesting in his Palm Sunday address that the Catholic Church would “not be intimidated” by the sex abuse scandals sweeping it.

By Nick Pisa in Rome
Published: 3:30PM BST 28 Mar 2010

Pope Benedict XVI Leads Palm Sunday At St. Peter's Square

Pope Benedict XVI Leads Palm Sunday At St. Peter’s Square Photo: GETTY

In a clear indication that the Vatican continues to insist the stream of abuse revelations are part of a conspiracy the Pope said: “From God comes the courage not to be intimidated by petty gossip.”

Although he did not directly mention the crisis that has seen claims of abuse from Ireland, Germany, Austria, Holland and Brazil the 82 year old Pontiff’s message was evidently clear.

As he spoke, thousands of pilgrims who had gathered in a sunlit St Peter’s Square clapped and shouted “Viva il Papa” (Long Live The Pope). The scandals seemingly not to have had an impact on their faith.

Last week the Vatican’s official newspaper L’Osservatore Romano said the abuse allegations were part of an “ignoble attempt to strike at Pope Benedict XVI and his closest collaborators at any cost”. Read the rest of this entry »

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IT’S JUST NOT ABOUT HATE

Posted by kayms99 on March 19, 2010

I was thinking about my comments last night on Steven Weber’s post, thinking about this subject.
I realized that I had probably come across as insensitive and ignorant about some of the truly desparate situations concerning this issue.  I thought about my own experience. 

I was a teenager and unmarried when I got pregnant. And I was terrified. My daughter’s father, being young himself was not very receptive to the idea of becoming a father.  He wanted me to get an abortion.

 Not only was I looking at the most terrifying personal dilemma ever in my life (that only a woman can fully understand) I had realized that he (the father) had lied to me.. clearly, he didn’t truly love me like he claimed he did… I was alone.  I became even more terrified.  Even then, as a teenager I knew abortion was out of the question.  But, in order to receive some kind of desparately needed immediate emotional comfort,  I pretended to agree.

The next day when it was officially confirmed that I was pregnant, my daughter’s father came thru and did the right thing. WE did the right thing. His Christian upbringing, I’m sure, had a lot to do with his decision. I know I was one of the “lucky” ones.  I realized that again last night.  I thought, what if he hadn’t “come thru”?  I’m sure I would have continued living with my parents and raised my daughter on my own. But, what if my parents were not supportive, what if I hadn’t had that option either? I do understand COMPLETELY that with each step it gets harder and harder to resist the quick and “easy” way out.  But, there is help, there are programs and church organizations, there ARE OTHER OPTIONS. It may not be easy, it may be a scary and lonely road to go down but it IS the best choice.. it IS the right thing to do for EVERYONE.  Read the rest of this entry »

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God-belief runs rampant in USA. Well, duh…

Posted by 1minionsopinion on March 15, 2010

In a study that seems almost redundant, Canadian researchers took the results from two U.S. surveys regarding people and their faith in god and came to the (quite obvious) conclusion that many Americans are deluded habitually giving god credit for everything from a winning touchdown to getting voted into power to getting a speeding ticket.

“In American culture — much less so in Canada — there’s a really constant flow of God-talk that references these small, personal interactions. It’s almost like a self-absorbed view of divine will,” says study author Scott Schieman, a professor of sociology at the University of Toronto.

“The extent that it’s so visible, almost saturating the culture at times, makes me think it’s not just metaphor or symbolism; many, many people believe these processes are real.”

Eight in 10 Americans say they depend on God for decision-making guidance.

Seven in 10 believe that when good or bad things happen, the occurrences are part of God’s plan.

And six in 10 believe God has set the course of their lives.

Crazy. The article also reports on the fact that a third of those surveyed believed there was essentially no free will, that god is the guiding hand in every event, for good or ill.

“If you feel like, ‘No matter what I do, it’s all going to work out a particular way,’ what does that do for your motivation?” says Schieman, who suggests the 32 per cent of people who behave this way do so because it relieves anxiety in desperate circumstances, shifting the pressure skyward.

For others, they treat the invisible dude like he’s a BFF and get great feelings of love and confidence out of their delusion.

The concept permeates shows such as So You Think You Can Dance, American Idol and Big Brother, all of which frequently feature participants who credit their victories to a higher power. They also assume their failures are part of His plan, rely on prayer to further their competitive success or talk as though the right hand of God is cramped from texting votes on their behalf.

“People will weave a divine narrative into just about anything,” says Schieman …

Personally, I think the bigger question should be why. Why do so many people still cling to religion to get through life? Even if they claim they aren’t following a religion, that it’s all spiritual and godding around town with best buddy Jesus as a co-pilot is just something to brag about. Why do it? Why think it? Aside from feeling like they have big important friends solving their problems for them, what else is going on in their heads to make this logical and worth believing?

How did it come about? Has it always been this bad, or is something making it worse? Why does faith become such a powerful force for so many people? And why does faith have no impact for other people?

(cross-posted)

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Hollywood Liberalism knows no boundries.. Exhibit 1… the movie “DOUBT”

Posted by kayms99 on March 14, 2010

 

Well, the liberals ON ADKOB are going to say… “here we go again”…

Yep… liberalism certainly gives me a lot to gripe about.  Right now, I’m going to gripe about the capital of progressive liberalism… Hollywood.

I’ve watched the movie “Doubt”, with Meryl Streep and Philip Seymour Hoffman, several times and I now know that my first impression was correct.  This movie promotes Hollywood’s ultra liberalistic movement to stifle (or completely wipe out ) Christian values.  And it’s frustrating because of the great amount of influence Hollywood has.  I believe, unfortunately, they will ultimately win and their views will reign in main stream society, if they don’t already.

The reason I say that I “now know” that my first impression of the movie is correct is because, on the surface, the movie seems to be very ambiguous.  Even to the end, we can’t truly be sure who the protagonist is and who is the antagonist.   But really, one could know this just by learning of the major components…. a staunch, hard lined, by the “Book” Catholic (CHRISTIAN) Nun, a Priest who wants to “modernize” or “LIBERALIZE” the church, and Hollywood. And to be more descriptive… a Nun who holds on to traditional Christian values and a Priest who believes that “love” is the most important thing above all, but… oh yeah, this kind of “love” just happens to express itself sometimes through sexual contact with a 12 year old boy. Read the rest of this entry »

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Is the Inquisition Relevant Today?

Posted by 1minionsopinion on March 10, 2010

That’s the title of the Freethinker meetup I’ll be missing on the 21st. Damn those relatives with milestone birthdays who live nowhere near here but expect me to drop in for cake…

Just kidding, I like home visits. But what an interesting idea. I wonder which way they want to go with that.

I don’t know much about the Spanish Inquisition and the other ones throughout Europe over a 500 year period. A bit of poking around finds an argument that Spain’s intensive legal proceedings were far less offensive than other areas of Europe, and may have actually helped keep religious wars from breaking out.

There’s also something called the Black Legend, a ploy to paint what happened in Spain in far darker colours. It appears to be Protestant propaganda to make Catholics (and the Spanish people in general) look bad.

Well sure. All Spain did was forcibly convert Jews to Christianity and then punish them with death if they thought it didn’t stick. And then they evicted the Conversos they didn’t kill or burn in effigy. But no Protestants were harmed in the making of a Jew free Spain…

A lot of Protestants were harmed in the making of a pro-Catholic UK, though. And a lot of Catholics were harmed in return. Rev. Know-it-All pulls some numbers together.

Queen Mary Tudor who ruled England from 1553-1558 is called Bloody Mary for having executed 283 Protestants as heretics. Her little sister, Queen Elizabeth, a Protestant who succeeded her, is called Good Queen Bess. She, however, executed 800 Catholics for trying to have Mass said. If Bloody Mary was bloodthirsty, her little sister, Queen Elizabeth, was more than twice as bloodthirsty.

Another example: on September 11, 1649 Oliver Cromwell, the English dictator killed 3,500 Irish Catholics in the Massacre of Drogheda, burning women and children alive in St. Mary’s church, all in an attempt to establish Presbyterianism and wipe out Irish Catholicism. He killed more in an afternoon than the Spanish Inquisition did in 200 years, and went right on with the killing.

In the end, he had killed or exiled one quarter, perhaps one third, of the entire population of Ireland and taken 75% of the land, but I never hear anyone say, “Oh, those bloodthirsty Presbyterians.” I know Presbyterians. They are very nice people. They tend to keep their yards clean.

I think we could shine a light on any religion in any country and find history that likes to hide in the dark. Every country has had its bad rulers, bad seeds, bad ideas. Every country has had inequality, hatred and war. To point in only one direction and claim all the trouble comes from there.. well, it’s bad form.

Is the Inquisition relevant today? In terms of legal proceedings, apparently so.

Thierry Levy, a practicing attorney in Paris, observes that the procedures established during the Inquisition can still be seen in the workings of some European judicial systems today. Among the similarities, he cites: “The figure of the prosecutor, who can decide whether or not to pursue an investigation; the secrecy of the process; the provisional detention of suspects for interrogation.” He also points to the active role of the judge. The process of the Inquisition, he observes, is quite different from that of the Anglo-American judicial system, in which the prosecution and defense take active adversary positions, and the judge is a neutral arbiter.

In terms of ideology? Absolutely. I think it speaks to the risks we take allowing religious groups to have the power to influence government. Ideally, governments should make laws that help (and hinder) everyone in the same fashion, not grant one group better rights and greater latitude than the rest. Whether they want to break a country down by religious lines or racial ones, it’s still the wrong way to encourage patriotism and solidarity. Everybody does not have to be the same, but everyone does have to be considered an equal under the laws we agree as a country to uphold.


Speaking of religion and patriotism, this I quote reminds me of somewhere..but where…

But where do the guardians of orthodoxy put the blue-dotted line of damnation? Where on that sliding board do they see their colleague as no longer being a Christian?

Most Christians could easily be exposed for holding some heretical views even when judged only by the doctrine of their own sect. But they don’t care, for most Christian do not hold together the Jesus-in-their-head with theological propositions. So those Christians who worry about heresy are sort of unique.

Both from Triangulations, making a good point. The way Christians seem to view their place in their religion vs how their theology and books actually describe it. That blogger refers to the crazy “Jesus is my bestest pal!” kind of belief system that doesn’t seem to have anything to do with the faith though which it developed.

Thoughts?

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